Impeachment

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  1. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts



     
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  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Was Ms Hill still at the White House when the call occurred?
    She worked for a Soros funded Institute. Think there is any bias?
     
  3. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The White House stonewalling is now kicking into gear. First the unsuccessful attempt to stop Yovanovich from testifying, then Fiona Hill being told to use a very liberal view of Executive Privilege. Now the OMB is refusing to comply with the Congressional subpoenas claiming the reportedly flimsy legal argument that the Impeachment Inquiry is unconstitutional. If the OMB info shows that Trump and political appointees took the Ukraine funding out of the hands of career bureaucrats for personal political reasons then Trump is done. He won't get impeached by the Senate but his reelection will be a Mount Everest sized hill to climb.
     
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  4. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    On top of we don't even have a full transcript. This is exactly what the dishonest democrats wanted. Have a closed session and just release snippets where we can't get the full picture. Maybe everything what the NYT said on Hill's statement is correct but how the hell are we supposed to know for sure?
     
  5. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    No, she also worked for the Bush Jr. Admin. Which "Soros funded institute" did she work for?
     
  6. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    LH, you get how disingenuous this is, don't you? Probably not.

    The President of the US gets to dictate foreign policy. If those in the DOS aren't carrying out his orders, he can get others to help him out. Of course, as President he has the right to fire all those people and hire others. He isn't a good administrator to do that, so he finds the easy way out.
     
  7. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    This is 100% true which is why Trump should own any evidence of corrupt execution of his policies, especially because he chose to go outside the normal avenues of implementation procedures. Trump owns it. No ifs, ands or buts.
     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If Dems had the goods or the goods & the votes they would move forward
    Clearly they do not

     
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  9. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Did you really mean that? Literally? Behind the scene he had plenty of time.
     
  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    It would be 100% illegal while he was Senator/VP for the past ~30 years. Recognizing that Republicans are salivating over the wish thats true what are the odds that happened, especially was paid for it while in office?

    If Biden lobbied he'd have to have done it since 2017. Nobody is claiming Ukraine interaction between Biden and Ukraine since left office that I have seen but I haven't been hanging on every Biden rumor.
     
  11. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    I do not know the truth one way or the other but I think it’s foolish to think he hadn’t the time.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    So he was a covert lobbyist while he was VP?
     
  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Now THAT would be a scandal! Not sure there is any evidence of it despite JoeFan insisistence that he's linked to it twice. Of course he didn't actually answer the question.
     
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  15. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Honestly I don’t know but if yes or if no, I’m certain it was not due to a lack of time/opportunity.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Boiling it down to the basics, Trump "the debate showed that impeachment is Democrats' only hope"

    Trump says debate showed that impeachment is Democrats’ only hope

    Since Pelosi has already delayed it all, combined with the fact that another election is already on the schedule, why not just let the people decide it? The timing works.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    That's fine. Anything's possible, I suppose. It's also possible that Joe Biden actually killed Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown and framed OJ. I'll need to see some evidence. Though possible, it's very highly improbable.
     
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  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    CNN is reporting (no link yet) that the investigation opened by SDNY on Guiliani was a counterintelligence investigation. There was concern that he was wittingly or unwittingly being used by foreign nationals hostile to US interests.

    In other news, Donald Trump is still speaking glowingly of his personal attorney today.
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  21. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The Firehose of Falsehoods.
     
  22. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    if I were ever to do a double murder I’d change my politics to Democrat before the crime.
     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Or, just join NBC where you can murder and analy rape at will
     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    One of today's daily outrages

    El oh el

     
  25. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Very presidential.
     
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  26. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

  27. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

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  28. I35

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  29. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    Did he get Hill to lie? Will he get Bolton to lie?
     
  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    This is big news! From @horninchicago link above:

    What else happened on Thursday, October 3rd? Think hard.

    Schiff along with representatives of 3 House committees spent the day with Kurt Volker who was testifying before them. Think this "secret meeting" is the same as that sworn deposition which had Democrat and Republican representatives present or do you think Schiff met separately with Volker either before or after his Congressional testimony?

    My money is that this passage will be directly from Volkers testimony and in the transcript that is eventually released. Republicans are fighting back with their own selective leaks. The Daily Caller's description of this as a "secret", almost clandestined, meeting is questionable at best.

    @Garmel is the Daily Caller part of the MSM you drone on about?
     
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