Is Religion a Net Positive or Negative?

Anastasis:

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Groverat:

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Groverat, where is your evidence that Paul was wealthy? Where do you see him having power?

The last we see of Paul in the NT he is in house arrest in Rome. No power. He had just previously survived a shipwreck. No wealth. Of course he had influence and was a very prominent apostle, but he did not wield any organizational power. Each church was independent and had other pastors leading them.

 

Bob in Houston:

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Bob in Houston:

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Rex Kramer:

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Rex Kramer:

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i remember reading a book called "The lost years of Jesus" where from age ~ 6 to 30 he was in Tibet....
In any case, Grove, after thousands of years of human existence you could argue that no teachings are unique or innovative. Is that what you are saying? And wouldn't the credit be well deserved for it being his method that conveyed that message to a much larger audience? There are probably endless examples of people receiving credit for ideas and teachings that were originally put forth by others.

Also, you just seemed to have at least partially answered what I was talking about earlier when I said there's a difference between a human having existed vs. a god in that last post of yours.

Very interesting thread, a-holes

 

ADMIRALSTOCKDALE:

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ADMIRALSTOCKDALE:

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grove seems to have a lot of hostility towards one "religion" in particular, drawing a lot of material from Dawkins. Spending so much time fighting a foe that supposedly doesn't exist in the first place has a great sense of irony. Don't worry grove, before too long, you'll see your wish of no Christians on this earth come true