Jordan Effing Spieth

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by blonthang, Jun 21, 2015.

  1. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    I grew tired of much the media and fanbase falling over themselves for Tiger because he was black.
    I am told not to see color. In addition I did not like his arrogance. However, the man was one hell of a golfer. And since his fall he seems to be much more humble. I am ok with him.

    I watch golf when Spieth is playing. I play the game and consider it to be one of the few class sporting events left in the world. And as far as I am concerned, Spieth personifies the class of the profession. And make no doubt about it, he will win many more times because there are shots he can only make. He is the real deal.
     
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  2. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 10,000,000+ Posts

    Tiger is multiracial.
     
  3. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    I personally didn't care what color he was, I watched because he was a machine not phased by pretty much anything nor any challenge. In the world of golf which is so mental he seemed to have the focus of super man and I found that very interesting because no one else can perform on a course like that. Then he got married. The end.
     
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  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I may consider pulling fro Tiger if Golf Channel didn't literally spend 95% of the time talking about him. And, for the casual fan who may tune in on the weekend to see him in a tournament, wall to wall coverage of Tiger the rest of the week just probably makes people like me not watch.

    Any of the casual fans here tune in to Golf Channel to hear Rich Lerner have almost on-air orgasms talking about Tiger?
     
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  5. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    You are being naive. There is no multiracial. If you have black genes you are black. It’s a big deal and pays well. One of my best friends is married to a Thai woman. I ask him if Tiger was Thai or black. He was quick to set me straight.

    I am ok with that. Black is popular and much of the media and others fawn over them. Have you been watching TV? Everybody in the commercials are going black.
    I love all of my friends, some of which are black, and I don’t care. But don’t send me subliminal messaging.
     
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  6. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 10,000,000+ Posts

    I dunno man. According to Wikipedia,

    "Earl was a retired U.S. Army officer, and Vietnam War veteran who reported African American, Chinese, and Native American descent. Kultida (née Punsawad) is originally from Thailand, where Earl had met her when he was on a tour of duty there in 1968. She is of mixed Thai, Chinese, and Dutch ancestry. Tiger has described his ethnic make-up as "Cablinasian" (a syllabic abbreviation he coined from Caucasian, Black, American Indian, and Asian)."

    If all that can be reduced to Black, okey dokey.
     
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  7. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    Yep. He has been billed as a black golfer.
    The End
     
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  8. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    This is a stupid discussion, but Tiger is portrayed, marketed, whatever you want to call it, as a black man. Period. Plain and simple. Anyone who thinks the general public sees Tiger as Asian is probably not being honest.

    Tiger is biracial. We all agree. I think @Chinstrap is talking about the perception of the average dolt out there as to what tiger's racial makeup is at first glance.

    He looked more Asian when he was younger IMO, but not so much now IMO.
     
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  9. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Tiger Woods, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Booker T Washington, Frederick Douglass, Sade, Drake, Bob Marley, Derek Jeter—-these people are all 50% or less of African descent. They are almost always referred to as black or African American.
    Same with almost every 1/2 black person who is not famous.

    There could be a lot of different explanations for this, but it is a clear pattern.
     
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  10. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    Jordan should never have bought that first house in Preston Hollow. That house carries a jinx. Look at the previous owners. Glad he sold it and moved, but he held it too long.

    Hope the jinx is gone and he's off and running on a restored career.

    Great young man; great golfer
     
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  11. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 10,000,000+ Posts

    I thought science was important but once again emotions rules the day when it's favorable for a desired outcome.
     
  12. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    You and I are eerily similar in this respect...
     
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  13. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    I suspect that very few, except perhaps “23 and Me,” or “Ancestry.com” are interested in the details of Tiger’s ethnicity. He is referred to as an African American, a black man, whenever the subject is discussed, and I have never seen the matter questioned or disputed until this thread. Seems like much ado about nothing to me, and probably to Tiger as well.
     
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  14. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    Interesting perspective. I always thought it was because he ate the wedding cake. I have seen wedding cake ruin many young men.
     
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  15. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Spieth was never the same after the 12th hole at Augusta in 2018. He has pressed too hard since. Glad to see him going back to his old ways in many ways. It's making is brain work better.
     
  16. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 10,000,000+ Posts

    I remember when Tiger came up with the Cablinasian term he upset a lot of people who wanted a Black champion in golf, so I'm not sure what Tiger thinks. He didn't exactly embrace his Blackness to peoples liking. There are plenty of amazing Black athletes but its literally not scientifically accurate to say Tiger, or Mahomes or even Obama are simply "Black." Biracial is literally a real thing but for political brownie points or simple tribalism people like to claim one part of their genetic background because they think it elevates them socially. Anyway.
     
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  17. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    So, anyway, Spieth is leading going into the weekend at Pebble Beach.
     
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  18. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 10,000,000+ Posts

    It's nice to see his name at the top of the leaderboard. Hopefully he can continue his form.
     
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  19. militaryhorn

    militaryhorn Cocky & Relaxed Like Dionysus

    There is a two part series on HBO Max about Tiger. It talks about how he became a mental machine. Really good show.

    Tiger
     
  20. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    Tiger Woods is one-fourth black, one-fourth Thai, one-fourth Chinese, one-eighth white and one-eighth American Indian. Which explains why he looks more Asian than anything.
     
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  22. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 10,000,000+ Posts

    Which is why only calling him Black and ignoring the rest is just intellectually lazy or intentionally misleading. There's a lot of political equity being Black, especially these days. That's all. Don't want this getting political.
     
  23. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    This matter has been questioned or disputed his entire career, including Tiger himself.
     
  24. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    If someone tells me what race he belongs to and the facts back it up, I'd feel awfully arrogant to label him something different.
     
  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    As usual, the point has been missed by some here. None of us said he’s black. We said many people look at him and think he’s black.

    What’s so hard to understand about that and move the hell on back to Jordan Spieth?
     
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  26. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    The Census:

    OMB requires that race data be collected for a minimum of five groups: White, Black or African American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. OMB permits the CensusBureau to also use a sixth category - Some Other Race. Respondents may report more than one race.

    So, how would Tiger self-identify?
     
  27. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    One last thing...does Tiger Woods' life "matter"?

    Just kidding! Back to Spieth; hope he wins.
     
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  28. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Nope, not to me.

    Go Jordan!
     
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  29. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    One poop and 1 winner here. Hmmm.
     
  30. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    If the poop is from someone that is not a sponsor, it doesn't count.
     
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