Judge Calls Health Law Unconstitutional .

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by TexasGolf, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. TexasGolf

    TexasGolf 2,500+ Posts

    Judge Calls Health Law Unconstitutional .


    The Link
     
  2. Wesser

    Wesser 1,000+ Posts

    Since the Ds tried to cram this through so fast, they forgot to include a savings clause in the bill (where the rest of the bill stands if any one provision is struck down). This likely strikes the whole bill down because of that bit of legislative incompetence.
     
  3. Uninformed

    Uninformed 5,000+ Posts

    It wasn't that the clause was forgotten. The bill, the way it was passed, could not be amended: It could only be approved "as is". It was known at the time that if anything was struck down, it would kill the entire bill. However nothing could be done without having to get 60 new votes.
     
  4. Larry T. Spider

    Larry T. Spider 1,000+ Posts

    So you cant force people to buy health insurance? Fine with me. Just dont treat their asses when they get sick. For the record, Im not talking about poor people that cant afford insurance, Im talking about the people who CHOOSE not to have it.
     
  5. Roger

    Roger 1,000+ Posts

    Without being able to force people to have insurance it is hard to do away the pre-existing condition clauses that hurt so many right now.
     
  6. dheiman

    dheiman 1,000+ Posts


     
  7. Satchel

    Satchel 2,500+ Posts

    The important thing to remember here is something Obama and the Dems passed has been overturned. That's all that matters.
     
  8. Gone To Texas

    Gone To Texas 500+ Posts


     
  9. MojoMan

    MojoMan 1,000+ Posts

  10. AustinTejasFan

    AustinTejasFan 1,000+ Posts

    You do know two other federal judges, one in the same jurisdiction, ruled in favor of the entire law right?
     
  11. TexasGolf

    TexasGolf 2,500+ Posts

    going to the supreme court and will be struck down
     
  12. MojoMan

    MojoMan 1,000+ Posts


     
  13. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Even if you agree with its goals, it damned hard to defend the sloppiness of the health care reform legislation. Wouldn't it be amazing after all the controversy and political gamesmanship, the issue is won and lost on the competence of the anonymous functionary putting down words on paper.
     
  14. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    going to the supreme court and will be struck down
    __________________________________________________

    It will come down to Kennedy. He will be the deciding vote.
     
  15. Roger

    Roger 1,000+ Posts


     
  16. Leftwith

    Leftwith 500+ Posts


     
  17. Satchel

    Satchel 2,500+ Posts

    You know it's true.
     
  18. Ag with kids

    Ag with kids 2,500+ Posts

    I agree it's true. You're the biggest team player on this board... [​IMG]
     
  19. Gone To Texas

    Gone To Texas 500+ Posts


     
  20. AustinTejasFan

    AustinTejasFan 1,000+ Posts

    "They don't need insurance. They need care. "

    You mean like vaccinations, inoculations, mammograms, well checks, annual exams, doctor visits, etc? People, and their children, without insurance usually do without those things.
     
  21. Leftwith

    Leftwith 500+ Posts


     
  22. TexasGolf

    TexasGolf 2,500+ Posts

    "You mean like vaccinations, inoculations, mammograms, well checks, annual exams, doctor visits, etc? People, and their children, without insurance usually do without those things."


    And that is their choice. Like when I was younger and elected not to have health insurance.

    How about life insurance? I elect to have that coverage today. I allocate money for that in place of other things I could spend that money on.
     
  23. FridayNiteLites

    FridayNiteLites 500+ Posts

    Most people call it being responsible. People with pre-existing conditions should be able to get insurance through a high risk pool. Each insurance company that sells health insurance is assigned a risk, just like they do for auto insurance. It gets spread around that way, and no one company is on the hook for all the costs. Yes, premiums are higher, but care costs more. I would not have a problem with the government mandating a high risk pool for health insurance companies, but I do have a problem with mandating health insurance for all.
     
  24. Murphy'sBoy

    Murphy'sBoy 1,000+ Posts

    Serious question: Why is it OK for the government to require that people buy auto liability insurance? Isn't this the case or am I mistaken?
     
  25. dheiman

    dheiman 1,000+ Posts


     
  26. Gone To Texas

    Gone To Texas 500+ Posts


     
  27. bronco

    bronco Guest

    Bottom line is that you can not force insurance companies to take any person anytime with no lifetime limits if you don't force everyone to purchase coverage.
     
  28. Leftwith

    Leftwith 500+ Posts


     
  29. A. BETTIK

    A. BETTIK 1,000+ Posts

    Compelled car insurance is more about liability for damage caused to others. Health insurance is more about your own self regarding sphere, within which, you are the master of choice, not the centralizing politicians in Washington hundreds of miles away.

    For example. your car crash can greatly harm others. Your heart attack however has little influence over the health of others, unless of course it is the cause of your car crash.
     
  30. Ag with kids

    Ag with kids 2,500+ Posts


     

Share This Page