Jumbo Packages! WHY?!?!?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by georgecostanza, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. georgecostanza

    georgecostanza NBHorn7’s Protégé

    It's all good and fine to want to run the football, but do we have to make it so ******* obvious? When you have 4 TEs in the game, or 3 TEs and a FB, everyone in the stadium knows we're gonna run it. That said, why do we keep doing that?

    I'm tired of seeing a run of 2 yards on 1st down followed by a run of 3. We've consistently been in 3rd and 5 or longer the past two weeks. It puts the entire offense in a position to fail.

    I don't label the 2nd to last drive's failure to score as a fault by Ash. I blame Harsin for dicking around on first and second down. Yeah, Ash should've been ready to catch the snap. It might've been 3rd down anyway. I just hate that in the most critical part of the game, we decide to tell the defense exactly what plays we are going to run. There is no excuse for not scoring a touchdown when you start that close to your opponents' end zone.

    Here's an idea: If you want to run the ball, spread the defense out by going 3-wide. It keeps them out of the box if the respect the pass. With the box open, there's more room for our talented backs to run to. If they load the box to stop the run, throw it. What a damn concept.

    You can take your gadget plays and shov'em up where the sun doesn't shine if you can't can't handle that concept. That's the same concept that allowed OSU and WVU to run all over us.
  2. HornsForever'93

    HornsForever'93 1,000+ Posts

    Coaching staff is Wayyyyyyyyyy overpaid
  3. LikeMike

    LikeMike 500+ Posts

    Each of the last two weeks we have faced passing team that appear to have better running backs than our national top recruits. We run for two or three yards they run for 11 (or more).

    Harsin should try to copy the competition or maybe our top national recruits are not that good?
  4. Jim Bob

    Jim Bob 1,000+ Posts

    Our RB's would do a lot better if they were playing against our defense. That's the biggest difference.
  5. Burnt Orange Bevo

    Burnt Orange Bevo 1,000+ Posts

  6. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Last week it paid off that we forced the run. This week it didn't. WV gets a lot of credit for that, but they were determined that we were not going to grind out the clock.

    I think Harsin was probably a little too stubborn tonight on that strategy. At some point, you just have to accept that it's a track meet and go with it.
  7. Jim Bob

    Jim Bob 1,000+ Posts

    Yep, Harsin thought he would wear out the defense, then gash them late in the game like he did last week. It didn't work tonight. I hate second and eight.
  8. Horn89

    Horn89 1,000+ Posts

    If you're using first down to get two yards and burn 30 seconds of game clock, that's a bad strategy. You can't waste downs like that.

    I would have loved some more play action on first down instead of Bergeron for 2 yards (he had 17 carries for less than 3 ypc).

    Fourth quarter, we've got our foot on their throat... defense just turned it over deep inside WV territory. Get 7 there and we're in pretty good shape. What do we do? Bergeron up the middle twice, then the disastrous fumbled snap.

    Damn. That's NOT the time to "wear them down" or "control the time of possession," or whatever. You've got to score there. Get it into the hands of a playmaker, or go play action and try to get somebody the ball in the open field.
  9. Horn89

    Horn89 1,000+ Posts

    To the OP... yeah. I hated those jumbo looks at midfield. You've got a team with DJ, Daje, Marquise, J. Grey, Shipley... and you're going to pull all those guys off the field for 3 tight ends and Bergeron?

  10. omnipresent

    omnipresent 1,000+ Posts

    Dang, I agree with every post on this subject!
  11. Denmark

    Denmark 500+ Posts

    Ditto and I didn't even see the game. [​IMG] b
  12. scottyhorn

    scottyhorn 250+ Posts

    Hornsforever93 you are totally correct Harsin gets way too much dinero for his trick plays and wild horn formation that we see every freaking game some one after another omg anytime u see Gray in the wild horn formation u know he is going up the middle hell any junior high or pop Warner coach could defend that.
    Need to mix up the play calling and quit running up the dam middle because our center Esponosa is not a good blocker and most of our RB's only get a yard a two.
    Harsin quit being so predictable and mix up your play calling, last night during the game I thought it was our genius Greg Davis calling plays for us again.

  13. LikeMike

    LikeMike 500+ Posts

    Our running game is not that good, especially when the other team knows it's coming. We averaged 3.5 yards per carry.

    Why not throw the ball, and throw it again until their defense gets out of the 8 in the box?
  14. Aspen1

    Aspen1 100+ Posts

    Amazing that Mack has totally tried to re-vamp our DNA based on an injury to the quarterback that resulted in one loss to an SEC (BAMA) team. This probably resulted in the the loss of at least one game.

    And please do not let me hear the words "we're a young team" ever again!
  15. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Offensive rhythm disappeared mid first quarter; reappeared mid second quarter through the third quarter; and then was gone. Every yard gained in the 4th quarter was individual effort; not the result of a planned offense.

    As good as the offense was in the OSU game, it was bad in the WV game. The play calling was so bad at times I would have sworn that GD had flown in for the game with Vince.
  16. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    The funny thing is that it seemed like before the game the majority of the opinions on this board were that TOP was key and we needed to play grind-it-out offense to keep their offense off the field.


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