Keep Government Out of the (Porn) Bedroom

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Perham1, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. Perham1

    Perham1 2,500+ Posts

    Come one, die hard(on) Republicans! LA has mandated the use of condoms for sex film "actors". Where's the outrage of government running amok? This is little more than intruding into what consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their bedroom studios, to be viewed later by untold thousands.

    Here's another idea: why not require Catholic priests to use condoms when they sexually assault 10 year-old boys? Or am I treading on the delicate issue of church vs. state there?
     
  2. dalhorn1

    dalhorn1 1,000+ Posts

    to borrow from mcbrett again,

    i'm having a toasted ham sandwich on ciabatta with havarti cheese and roasted bell pepper. Mmmmmm
     
  3. majorwhiteapples

    majorwhiteapples 5,000+ Posts

    Taco's, crunchy tacos.
     
  4. Perham1

    Perham1 2,500+ Posts

    Hmm, leave it to the house conservatives to make a porn-to-taco connection.

    And here I thought most conservative sex-thought was of the "wide-stance" variety.
     
  5. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    So basically you're just looking to pick a fight today huh? Because otherwise there really doesn't seem to be much point in this post.
     
  6. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    I think your outrage is misplaced. I don't think there are any republicans in LA other than Pasadena.
     
  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet


     
  8. Uninformed

    Uninformed 5,000+ Posts

    The Link


    Boasting uninhibited women, lush tropical backdrops, and cheap production costs, Brazil has become a prime destination for adult film outsourcing. But Brazil also has the second highest incidence of HIV and AIDS in the western hemisphere. Last month, the porn industry's increasingly global risks surfaced when an American porn actor contracted HIV after shooting unprotected sex scenes with more than a dozen Brazilian women. Thirty US porn studios halted production, virtually shutting down the $4.4 billion per year industry based in California's San Fernando Valley. The incident sparked criticism from Brazil's adult film industry, Latin America's largest. While America's porn industry relies on testing to halt the spread of the virus, Brazil's scoffs at testing as expensive and unreliable, and instead depends on condoms to prevent infections. Despite the risks, however, money talks: Brazilian actresses, many of whom moonlight as prostitutes, can double the $175 they earn per scene if they work with actors not wearing condoms. – YaleGlobal
    HIV Case Airs Secrets of Porn Industry
    An HIV infection of a porn actor sends shock waves through the industry in the U.S. and draws criticism from Brazil
    Alan Clendenning
    The Miami Herald, 29 April 2004

    SAO PAULO - Flush with dollars, American porn film directors swoop into Brazil for its exotic and uninhibited women, dazzling tropical backdrops and cheap production costs -- a phenomenon that has turned South America's largest country into a prime destination for adult film outsourcing.

    But the infection of an American porn star with HIV last month after shooting unprotected sex scenes with more than a dozen Brazilian women is sending shock waves through the industry's California heartland and prompting Brazilian performers to criticize their American counterparts.

    America's adult film industry relies on testing to prevent the spread of the virus. But testing is scoffed at in Brazil as expensive and unreliable. The Brazilian porn industry, Latin America's largest, has long depended on condoms to prevent actors from getting and spreading HIV.

    Darren James, the American actor who contracted the virus, apparently in Brazil, and infected at least one actress after returning to the United States, ''took a risk that many Brazilian actors won't,'' said Evaldo Shiroma, who heads the Brazilian Erotic Industry Association.

    Brazil, like many countries, does not require HIV testing for porn actors, and American actors who work in the country often go back to the United States immediately to film more movies, boosting the infection risk.

    POSITIVE RESULT

    James performed with 13 actresses after returning to the United States before a blood test two weeks ago showed he was HIV-positive.

    One partner, Lara Roxx, also tested HIV positive.

    Since then, more than 50 performers who had contact with the two or their on-screen sex partners have been barred by the American industry from performing pending new tests.

    Thirty companies halted production, virtually shuttering a business based in California's San Fernando Valley that generates at least $4.4 billion annually.

    Brazil's adult film industry produces a much lower $100 million yearly, industry players estimate. But the business is thought to be the second-largest in the world after the United States and is growing rapidly.

    Dozens of porn production companies operate in Sao Paulo, Brazil's largest city. The films are so widely accepted that videos and DVDs are showcased on corner newsstands.

    CHEAP TALENT

    In recent years, a growing number of American and European adult film directors headed to Brazil -- looking for new talent and taking advantage of the 2002 collapse of the local currency, the real, that made outsourcing more cost-effective.

    But producers chose the country with the most people in the hemisphere with HIV or AIDS after the United States. They usually head to Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro -- home to 60 percent of the 540,000 Brazilians with HIV or AIDS, according to a recent World Bank study.

    Though the Brazilian porn film industry is unregulated, most production companies honor a gentleman's agreement requiring actors to use condoms.

    Actors could not afford regular HIV tests that cost $140 each, and producers feared being sued by actors getting the virus while working.

    While roughly 80 percent of Brazilian porn films are made with actors using condoms, about the same percentage of American movies feature actors not wearing them. Brazilian industry executives say most Americans who film in Brazil require their actors to film unprotected sex scenes.

    SEX SCENES

    At Sao Paulo's eighth annual Erotika Fair last week, Brazilian porn actors said American directors often bring in their own male talent but usually hire Brazilian actresses who often moonlight as prostitutes and are also willing to have sex without condoms.

    The Brazilians make about $175 for sex scenes with condoms, but can double their pay working with actors not wearing them.
     
  9. Burnt Orange Bevo

    Burnt Orange Bevo 1,000+ Posts

    Perham1,

    If you disagree with the LA law, why not just say it? Why try to link every group that you have a problem with (Republicans, Catholic clergy, etc.) to this issue so you can have an excuse to slam them?

    Do you oppose OSHA mandating the use of hardhats at construction sites? One could argue that AIDS poses a far greater mortality risk (to both porn professionals and the public) than workplace accidents, since AIDS can spread exponentially and in perpetuity.
     
  10. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Perham,

    Why can't the Red States divorce the Blue States and your side can control and do whatever you want with the porn industry? That way your side can sit back and watch all the porn all day long and try to figure out who will pay the taxes while the Red States continue to grow economically with a smaller government without all the spending.

    Let me guess, your not a lefty but an independent?
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Just a thought I had - if a porn star gets AIDS while shooting a "film," does she have a workers compensation claim? On paper, she may be an independent contractor. However, if porn company is directing the details of her work (how to do the scene, when to show up every day, etc.), then she's going to at least have an argument that she's in the course and scope of employment. If she's an independent contractor, does she gain a cause of action against the guy who gave her AIDS?

    Just wondering . . .
     
  12. Perham1

    Perham1 2,500+ Posts

    From the above posts it seems the Cons are all for big gubmint when it suits their interests.

    So much for their ideological purity.
     
  13. A. BETTIK

    A. BETTIK 1,000+ Posts

    This is just an incremental step of Progress towards eventually banning men from sex scenes, which I wouldn't mind at all. I think the Japanese did something similar hundreds of years ago, although I cannot fathom why they would want to ban women and not men from theater...
     
  14. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts


     
  15. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    perham is just upset because the cost of his porn went up a little bit although he shouldnt complain since he still lives with his mom in her basement.
     

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