Luka Doncic

Discussion in 'Men’s Basketball' started by VYFan, Apr 30, 2022.

  1. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    So I couldn’t help but be reminded of Larry Bird, and I googled the topic, and someone had written an article saying that Bird was way better, citing clutch shots to win games over his career, and MVPs and rings. Fair enough. But Luka is right now the age of Bird when Bird was a rookie.

    The article made much of Bird having a better 3-point average, but in the comparing first 3 years in the league, Luka’s is better than Larry’s was, and he scores about 5 more points a game, has more assists, and has 8.5 rebounds compared to Larry’s 10 (which he ended up keeping as an average his whole career).

    So most of the things that Larry Bird has on his resume came later.

    Ja Morant is amazing, but you think of him as a baby; he and Luka were both born in 1999.

    Maybe in Dallas, this has been beat to death, but in Austin, the main time I see or think of Doncic is in the playoffs.
     
  2. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    He'll probably get an MVP or two. As for the championship ring... once he leaves Dallas probably.

    Bird comparisons are kind of strange because I don't see Luka play that style. Bird had apt guards and bigs around him. Luka's more of a one-man show. I think Lebron pre-Miami is a better comparison for Doncic. Jordan pre-Pippen. Westbrook post-Durant. Tracy McGrady on pretty much any team he ever played for.
     
  3. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    I see what you mean as far as being ball-dominant. He does play a one-man show, but I would like to think that that is because he’s never played with anyone who could even dream of starting for the Bird-era Celtics.

    I’d also like to think I’m not just comparing him because of the whiteness. But they are of similar size and strength, and it’s great natural strength that has no real weight room muscle development. They both are slow-twitch, often appearing to be the slowest person on the court but somehow using timing and leverage, they manage to dribble past the defender or get the guy off balance and suddenly be unguarded. They both seem to see all 10 players on the court as plays develop. They are both dead eye outside shooters for being so big—and capable of rebounding against the biggest guys. Good passers. So, I guess it’s kind of an eye test.

    Could he mix with the warriors (as KD did) or the suns or the bucks? We know that on any team in history, Bird could start, mix in, and make the team better. I guess we don’t know that about Luka, but as I said up top, he is only right now the age of Bird when Bird was a rookie.
     
  4. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    imo the Bird comparisons make sense because of his ability to control the speed of the possession. sometimes he looks slow motion weaving in/around the paint. and he can play with the ball like Bird.

    i think early lebron is the closest.

    but i agree his ball dominance is due to his amazing talent and lack thereof around him. he is looking to pass though. and does it beautifully (better than Bird, Lebron, or Jordan). his court awareness and vision are more like Kidd (big PG with similar awareness.

    he is as old this year as Bird was as a rookie. i think we should let that sink in.

    he's the Next imo. I love watching Ja. He's so exciting. Not as good as Luka though.
     
  5. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Go MAVS!
     
  6. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Mavs tied it 38-38 game 2 !!!
     
  7. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Mavs 41-38!!!

    First lead!
     
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  8. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Sorry for hijacking the thread....
     
  9. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    hijacking always feels worse after wilting in a 20-2 run in the 4th.
     
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  10. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    I don't watch the NBA at all but they were saying on the radio this morning he's looking a little pudgy these days. Is he getting a beer gut?
     
  11. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Not IMHO.
     
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  12. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    i think he's always going to wrestle with that. he's not svelte like a WR. he's thicc like a lineman.
     
  13. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    I have a fond memory of Billy Paultz
     
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  14. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I heard Billy Paultz went to work for Burger King, home of...
     
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  15. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    So, yeah, the more I have gotten to watch Luka, the less he looks like Larry Bird. Other than I’m hoping the Mavs win, he’s not that much fun to watch. James Harden is a better comparison, or Kyrie in a fat suit. No doubt he’s good; as said, I hope the mavs go far.
     
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  21. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    How about these Mavs!!

    57-27 @ Phoenix at the half!!!
     
  22. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Early 3rd... 62-27 BEATDOWN by the Mavs!!!!
     
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  23. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Stunning score vs. SUNS @ HOME:

    Mavs 70
    Suns 32

    Mid 3rd
     
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    Last edited: May 15, 2022 at 8:35 PM
  24. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Mavs now up 85-47 .... wow!
     
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  25. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    End of 3rd period:

    Mavs 92
    Suns 50

    Honestly I did not see this 7th game ending like this...
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2022 at 9:51 PM
  26. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    Wow. What a blow out. Chris Paul’s stock is dropping fast. Luka gets his shot at Steph
     
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  27. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Wow!!@#$%

    Mavs kick serious *** in this game 7 playoff in Phoenix!!!

    123 - 90

    and it was not that close....
     
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    Last edited: May 15, 2022 at 9:52 PM
  28. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    You’re so right! A serious butt kicking was administered tonight. I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it.
     
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