Massive water leak? ** 4/20 NEW UPDATE!!!!**

Discussion in 'Horn Depot' started by Brisketexan, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. dahorns

    dahorns 250+ Posts

    Just went through this same scenario this week

    Some background, (btw we're in Austin) we have been on the levelized plan for w/ww and elc. for years and the $ are deducted by the CoA monthly. I confess, over the years have gotten lazy and don't regularly look at the usage part of the w/ww bill (we receive two separate bill for elec and w/ww). We live on one side of a duplex that we own; 2 elec meters and 1 shared water meter

    This past bill I looked at the $ and usage because we're getting close to the adjustment period when our montly will go up or down depending on the previous year's usage.
    I almost **** when I saw our bill would have been >$235 had we not been on levelized.
    Approx usage 30k w 30 ww (don't have bill in front of me).

    First thing I did was go out to the water meter. It's spinning at .4gpm (I timed sevrak times over a one hour period). I went to each of our outdoor spigots (I replaced them all last year); looked under sink/faucets (kitchen and bath, I also replaced all of the angle stops last year), clothes washers; refrigs, toilets (replaced angle stops last year).
    There were no visible or audible leaks. For good measure I replaced all of the tank flappers.

    The 0.4 gpm equates to about 18k gallons, which is the amount that is above our average non-summer monthly usage. I reviewed the past year of bills/usage to verify.

    After all of these activites, the f@#$ing water meter was still spinning. So, I called the plumbing company that I've used over the years when the problems for home/renatals go beyond my week-end warrior abilities. They tell me that I did verything that they would have done. So, at least I saved myself a $150 service call.

    They referred me to leak detection company. But, first I call the CoA to confirm my suspicions of responsibility. I'm The CoA owns/responsible for everything up to and including the water meter. The piping/fitting/valves from meter on up to the home are my responsibility (even though there is some piping in the CoA ROW, it doesn't matter).

    I get the referred leak detection company out our place, takes him about 2 hours of pressuring up piping on our renter's side and our side before he finds the leak.

    Turns out that about 10 feet onto our property, there's some type of a valve (check valve/anti-syphon) and splitter that is leaking. The valve cover (located under some lugustrums, sp?) shot up through loose soil and mulch. We've owned the placed for 11 years and I never knew that the valve/splitter was there.

    My plan is to dig it up this weekend and hopefully replace the parts. If I can't, then I'll call the plumbing company to come out next week.
     
  2. Brisketexan

    Brisketexan 1,000+ Posts

    UPDATE -- it's in the yard, it's in the yard, thank God almighty, it's in the yard! (with apologies to MLK).

    They put in a stop valve at the house, to see if the meter would still run, indicating a leak in the yard. It worked -- they found it. Very good news.

    The bad news -- it's right underneath our 50 year old oak (which ought to be VERY happy right now -- 30k gallons oughta do that). They are looking at the option of (a) repairing it where it is, or (b) just re-routing a new line around the tree.

    Either way, I'm sure it will be pricey, but it's a punch to the gut vs. a punch to the nuts had it been in the foundation, so I'm relatively pleased.

    I will see more detail and be able to evaluate it better when I get home.
     
  3. jimmyjazz

    jimmyjazz 2,500+ Posts

    For what it's worth, I had to replace a water line with one day's notice when the city threatened to fail our inspection for a big addition. (We needed more capacity.) Even paying the premium for same-day service, it was "only" $2,000 to dig the trench and install the new line.

    I realize $2,000 is a lot of money, but I think your worst nightmares were WAY worse than that. The joys of homeownership!
     
  4. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

    sounds like very good news
     
  5. NickDanger

    NickDanger 2,500+ Posts

    Yeah, but the door handle is going to make the foundation buckle and heave.
     
  6. gobears92

    gobears92 Guest

    [​IMG] ...thank ******* god....I was nervous for you...
     
  7. Bevo5

    Bevo5 1,000+ Posts

    30k gallons of water will make a tree happy. Kind of like me and that much beer. Of course that would mean I would be dead.
     
  8. Orangeblood

    Orangeblood 1,000+ Posts

    About 6 months after we moved into our house we "found" a water leak in our front yard. Cost us about $1100 in '97 to replace (and cost us a cottonwood that they killed in the process). My advice, put in a new line AROUND the tree and take the day(s) off to watch them dig the trench to make sure that they don't uncaringly cut through a major root.
     
  9. SouthernSooner

    SouthernSooner 100+ Posts

    Let me second the opinion to re-route the water line around the tree...that option should save the tree and be a less costly project overall.
     

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