Mosque Shooting in New Zealand

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Mr. Deez, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    This is what you all are going to wake up to. Apparently somebody shot up two mosques in Christchurch, NZ. 49 dead. Obviously an act of terror.

    Get ready for the spin to begin.
     
  2. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    He live streamed it too.
     
  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    These people who will murder and post it live on the internet are true sickos.
     
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  4. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I saw some of it. He certainly looked soulless before the shooting.
     
  5. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    Horrible
     
  6. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I just saw the full video. It’s horrible. What’s crazy is he was there shoot away and no law enforcement showed up. He had no urgency and the video was 16 min long. After the killing at the scene he shot at a few other people from his car as he was leaving. It was 1:30 left of his video that I heard the first siren pass him on their way to the secene. That was about 3 or 4 minutes of filming after he left the crime scene. He was laughing and talking to him self with a strong English accent. The main area the people inside were in two different corners and he just shot over and over again in one area then kept getting new magazines loaded and did the other corner. Went outside and shot more people then went back in and shot the pile of people to make sure they were all dead. Then went to his car and ran over a lady he has already shot earlier as he escaped. Very gruesome.

    Edit*. I just remembered his camera looked to be in his helmet. So it was like you were seeing through the eyes of the kill. He will rot in hell.
     
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  7. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    So the dude just drove away from the scene? Has he been caught or killed yet?
     
  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    He has been arrested and charged with murder.
     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is this an indictment of multiculturalism generally?
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    It's an indictment but we have different views the motivation. Laugh some more at JoeFans 4Chan memes...this terrorist was clearly influenced by them based on his manifesto.

    Condolences extended to the victims and their families. This terrorist act is truly deplorable.
     
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  11. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    It is awful. Murder is awful. I am also shocked that he was able to get a gun since it is illegal. That doesn't happen. I can't happen. There is a law that says so.

    Prayers for the affected families for their community to receive comfort and security.
     
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  12. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    I agree that murder is awful. Murder of a muslim is awful. Murder of a non-muslim is also awful. I think the death count of non-muslims killed by Islam Terrorists is much higher than the death count of muslims killed by any terrorists. So let's equally condemn all terrorism and not continue to pretend that the only hatred in the world comes from white men.
     
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  13. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    :rolleyes1:
     
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  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Who is pretending it only comes from white men? Our battles in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria would be evidence of o strong commitment to stamp out terrorism from non-white men.
     
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  15. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Didn't take long for people to start blaming the Right.
     
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  17. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    And Trump. CNN started early this morning blaming Trump.
     
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  18. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Why? His manifesto?
     
  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That's probably the reason, but we're selective on that. If a crazy person who likes a conservative kills people, it's the conservative's fault. If a crazy person kills in the name of Islam, the same people do everything they can not to blame Muslims.

    Personally, I think we should blame all crazy acts on the crazy people who commit the acts. We shouldn't blame conservatives or Trump for this guy, and we shouldn't blame random Muslims for acts of terror committed by other Muslims that they don't know and have nothing to do with.
     
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  20. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    The killer said his political and social views align with China. I'm not sure this guy should be assigned solely to the right but we know how the media works.
     
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  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Not getting the same level of media attention for some reason
    Racism?
    If so, is it the status of the shooters? Or the status of the victims?
    What other explanation is there?
     
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  23. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Actually no Longest Horn, you keep stepping in it. The shooter described himself as an eco-fascist (a left wing ideology) and specifically said he wasn't a conservative.

    The places like CNN and MSNBC claim he was on the Right because he was white and white supremacist. He is a white supremacist but a left wing one. Sorry the inconvenience.
     
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  24. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Sounds to me like he's just a royal nut job who can't even make sense of who or what he is or wants except that he hates Muslims.
     
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  25. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Can’t count the number of times I’ve heard that he was a white supremacist. If he was a radical islamacist, he might be described just as a plain Jane “ terrorist” or they might say something like “the shooter’s motive was unclear”. MSM gonna push their agenda.
     
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  26. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Yep. As I said earlier the fact that he aligns himself politically with China is the icing on the cake. He's not a right-winger.
     
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  27. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    The term white supremacist is used by the Left as a "long-game" attempt to ban the Republican Party or at least have them relegated to fringe status. I have no doubt about this. They term "white-privilege" is no accident either. These terms are specific to the Left's attempts to gain total power in the US. The are working on all fronts.
     
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  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  29. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    That must be quiet a little totalitarian state down there. 10 years in prison for downloading a video off the internet? Seems pretty harsh. Also, one mass shooting and their Prime Minister says she'll change the NZ gun laws! What no referendum? Their constitution must be extremely easy to change.
     
  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Lot's of misdirection in that manifesto likely geared to get a chuckle from his meme buddies on 8chan.

    What are the facts:
    1. He was a white supremacist.
    2. Feared the "invasion" from Muslims.
    3. Walked into 2 mosques and killed 49 Muslims.

    Monahan infers he was a socialist with the strong intention of stamping out this Muslim capitalists.

    The dude was crazy. It's equally crazy to feign ignorance that the rhetoric of the current conservative class isn't giving tacit approval and positive acknowledgement for individuals like this and the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter.

    Extremism of all stripes should be admonished regardless of whose side they vote for. Yes, that includes Muslim extremists.
     

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