Mueller Report Finally Released...

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Clean, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Don’t you need a crime first before you can impeach? Source of TDS is not an impeachable offense.
     
  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    Maybe one of the lawyers in the room can explain to me how an investigation based on a bought and paid for bogus "dossier" from the opposition candidate can be deemed a legal investigation as someone alluded to several posts ago.
     
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  3. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Obstruction of justice isn't a crime?
     
  4. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    There was no "justice" to obstruct. The whole investigation was a traveshamockery from the very beginning, thus no possibility of actual justice being obstructed.

    There might have been obstruction of injustice, but even then I doubt it.
     
  5. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I admit I tuned out some time ago.
    so I am asking sincerely
    SH? " Obstruction of justice isn't a crime?"
    Was there obstruction? What kind and by whom?
     
  6. theiioftx

    theiioftx 2,500+ Posts

    Most definitely there was obstruction of justice. The bleach bit and hammering of her phones definitely obstructed the investigation.
     
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  7. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Above is known symptom of TDS.
     
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  8. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    TDS is taking on a different meaning with it's overuse just as Fake News. Above all, it's a sign any rebuttal is weak so the purveyor of statements resorts to personal accusations.

    Too many Benjamin Button debaters on the West Mall. A bunch of old men whose argumentation skills are regressing as they age. Y'all have followed DJT back to grade school.
     
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  9. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    So says the poster who posts crazy allegations about the president with even loonier legal theory to back it up.
     
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  10. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    SH?
    What obstruction took place and by whom?
     
  11. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    I supposes saying that someone who disagrees with Trump has TDS is much worse than being called a racist if you disagreed with Obama.

    My opinion is the latter happened with much greater frequency.
     
  12. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Well being called a racist is much worse than being called crazy or deranged in today's world.

    A deranged person can claim victimhood. Seattle Husker should embrace it, he will be surrounded by supportive SJWs if he does.
     
  13. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    Yes, I know. I was being facetious. :)
     
  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Still can't dispute that "obstruction of justice" is a crime. You asked, I answered, you changed the subject.
     
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  15. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    No, using my personal freedom, I chose not to argue it. If I did, the first thing I would say is that the onus is on the prosecution, not the defendant, to make the case.
     
  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    SH
    "Still can't dispute that obstruction of justice" is a crime.'"
    I am not saying it didn't happen. I do not know
    What obstruction happened? By whom?
     
  17. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    Come on Horn6721, we're talking Trump here. He MUST be guilty. Presumption of innocence, my ***! Legal principles reaching back the the Magna Carta? Who gives a damn! Tear them up! Get Trump!!!
     
  18. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    But Trump told someone to fire Mueller. That is clearly obstruction of justice. The investigation vaporized after that.
     
  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    As I said it got so convoluted I tuned it out.

    But Mueller was not fired. Did Trump ask for the investigation to be halted? If he did that would seem obstruction but to ask for the head to be removed while the rest of the people continue does not seem to me to be obstruction.

    Further does not the POTUS have the authority to fire Mueller?
    It is hard to know what is going on.
     
  20. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Are you gonna act like Part 2 of the Mueller report doesn't exist? Fake News I suppose? 10 separate instances of obstruction? Mueller flatly stating that he couldn't say Trump was innocent of obstruction but also had no ability to charge him?
     
  21. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    Since when is a prosecutor supposed to prove a person's innocence? Remember, Trump is presumed to be innocent. If Muller is trying to prove that, then he is coming from a presupposition of guilt.

    To draw a purely hypothetical analogy, if I was assigned to prove you were even vaguely intelligent, you'd think my base assumption is that you're a mouthbreathing dumbass of the highest order, and that I'm striving to find something to dissuade myself of that notion. And that assumption on my part might just offend you a bit.

    Similarly, Muller and his democrat attack dogs started with the assumption Trump was guilty of colluding with Russia, spent thousands of man hours and millions of dollars to realize their assumption was flat out wrong, and now are reduced to mewling that Trump might have asked somebody to make their witch hunt a little bit tougher because he was probably a little offended at the notion. Waaah, waaah, waah.
     
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  22. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Part II was full of TDS, but being afflicted with TDS, you can’t see it.
     
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  23. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I am with you that she is the hottest woman I have ever seen in politics, and it's a blowout. If I had to bet, I'd bet that Trump has gone there, and if he hasn't, it sure as hell isn't from a lack of trying.

    But beyond her hotness, as significant as that is, I'm not sure that she brings much to our politics.
     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth (UT Law) for the District of Columbia -

    "I was actually dumbfounded when found out that Cheryl Mills had been given immunity [by the Comey FBI], because I had myself found that Cheryl Mills had committed perjury and lied under oath."
     
  26. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Who said anything about her looks? Geez, what a jerk. :smile1:
     
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  27. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Unfortunately for you, Muller explained that he was not allowed to assert a guilty charge and present charges either. The rest of your post is more of the same. More attempts at insults due to lack of viable arguments. I'm going to start calling you Sangre Buttons.
     
  28. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    No, that is ********. Look at the interview with Barr. Barr says that was not the case. Barr said Mueller was free to recommend charges. Why do you persist in trafficking in this bs?

    Your hero Mueller is nothing but a duplicitous hack.
     
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  29. Garmel

    Garmel 1,000+ Posts

    Barr is in cahoots with Trump and can't be trusted. You didn't get the MSM memo?
     
  30. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

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