NFL Draft

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by rick mueller, Apr 28, 2017.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  2. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    That's basically half the draft if they all get drafted, which I'm sure won't happen. Always plenty of sycophants out there to tell a guy how great he's gonna be.
     
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  3. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    I think underclassmen declaring has less to do with the advice they receive and more to do with "I don't want to be in college when I could make a practice squad or Canadian/Arena team and play for money." LJH certainly falls in that category.
     
  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The 2020 draft has 120 underclassmen who declared early
    Here are the percentages that have gone undrafted over the last 10

    2020- 120 (???)
    2019- 135 (36% undrafted)
    2018- 113 (34%)
    2017- 96 (23%)
    2016- 110 (50%)
    2015- 84 (29%)
    2014- 102 (39%)
    2013- 79 (32%)
    2012- 68 (34%)
    2011- 56 (25%)
     
  5. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    Not surprised. Every one of those not drafted thought they were better (and maybe one or two were). A more interesting number would be the percentage that went after round 2.
     
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  6. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

    Me thinks it's most often a very bad career move.
     
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  7. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    You can say it's a bad career move, but I'd venture a guess that the same percentage of underclassmen that go undrafted is probably close to the same percentage of that group who don't go to class. How "promising" is their future career if they were already on the bubble about whether or not they'd get drafted? Most of the guys who major in "community studies" don't get teacher certificates so they can't coach at schools.

    It's not like the undrafted guys are falling back on their law degrees.
     
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  8. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

    I get ya...
    Good post.
    But my line of thinking, for those who havent earned degrees, goes like this:
    Quit the team, drop out of school
    Think you're better than you are, don't make the grade in the NFL, go Canadian or to the XFL, make some small change, flame out in 3 years, then back to square 1....minus the free ride to a great education.
    Not a smart bet.
    What am I missing?
     
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  9. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    1) The very low percentage graduate in 5 years or even 7-8 years

    2) Sign the NFL contract with an "education" clause, same with MLB

    3) Issues at schools like Third ward, where one of their stars replied to my question when would he graduate, "I've only been here for four years, but i do have nine hours credit".

    Very, very few of these kids choose a school for academics.
     
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  10. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    Three courses. Which three, if any, were core courses?
     
  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    Finding the practice field 101

    Avoiding the bullets while Getting from your car to practice (Graduate level)

    Pawning stolen electronics (upper division)
     
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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We will have 4 representatives at the NFL Combine:
    WR Devin Duvernay
    WR Collin Johnson
    S Brandon Jones
    DL Malcolm Roach
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    For the sake of comparison...
    Baylor with 6 at combine
    TCU with 7
    Alabama with 10
    LSU has almost an entire team
    ou just 4
     
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  14. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

    TCU w 7??
    Wow. Not sure if Coach P needs reprimanded for not getting more Ws out of that bunch or credited for helping groom 7 NFL caliber guys out of that bunch.
     
  15. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

    My money here would be on Dev and Roach to make it.
    CJ looked good at the Senior Bowl, though.
    I dont know if it was our system or what but CJ just never seemed very open w us. He could use his body to get some balls in the Big12, but NFL corner play is an entirely different animal. Not sure how his speed compares w typical NFL receiver.
    Anyone have an opinion or data on this?
     
  16. Joe Fan

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  17. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    Ouch
     
  18. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    The amount of rage I feel while reading that rivals the worst things I felt during the Mackovic/McWilliams years. Everybody with a partially-functioning brain could tell that the "sneaky" delayed blitzes from the 3-3-5 or even the 3-2-6 were asinine. But for some stubborn reason, whether it was Mensa refusing to admit that he's not Mensa, or Orlando parlaying his toughness into HC job interviews like Chizik was back in 2006, we blindly stood by and watched the nonsense happen, along with giving up a million yards and points to teams like KU.

    We literally could have hired a 25-year-old HS defensive coordinator from the likes of a 3A school and had better results by just scrapping the moronic scheme that Orlando thought he was innovating from the Pittsburgh Steelers and Manny _iaz. It was criminal how our DL/LB crew has been used these past couple seasons, and the Alamo Bowl showed what we COULD actually do without handcuffing ourselves.

    We're set to have one of the deepest DB groups in program history in 2020, but with no pass rush or threat of tackling from the trench, it doesn't matter if we throw Jammer, Vasher, Huff, E Thomas, Ray Clayborn, Mike Griffin, Jerry Gray, or whoever in the backfield. They'll get burned over and over again with that stupid *** scheme.
     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    And those delayed blitzes usually came from the far side too
    10% success, at best
     
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  20. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    No education?

    It is one thing to be stupid with money, it is another far worst thing to be stupid with no money.
     
  21. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    Wow, just a little bit of rage I would say. Hopefully this year will be better.

    Funny no one had this criticism and degree of rage in 2018, is it not?
     
  22. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 2,500+ Posts

    Thankfully Texas gets a few who really do consider advancing their education, especially athletes not in football. They understand the topography of success much better.

    You may want to watch the LHN program on Black History month where CDC discusses these topics with 7 black athletes, 4 of which are women. Bimage and Sterns represented football. All of their replies and comments were quite articulate and there was no doubt in their minds that college education was the main benefit of their scholarships. I commend them in their efforts.

    Also, there are programs like this for athletes:

    Longhorns learn entrepreneurship with 'The Hustle' competition
     
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  23. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 5,000+ Posts

    Looks like you covered it all.
     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  25. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 1,000+ Posts

    Sometimes I have a difficult time understanding these types of messages. What is being said about who?
     
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It's about S Brandon Jones' work ethic and preparation for the upcoming NFL draft
     
  27. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 1,000+ Posts

    Evidently, Jones is the mature type and driven. Me thinks he will succeed as a professional football player and if not football it will be something else.
     
  28. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    Agree. In fact, he reminds me of Michael Griffin for some reason. He did OK...
     
  29. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Mature or not, he's not as gifted on the field as most of the safeties we've had since Mack was here. He's Dylan Haines but with unmet expectations instead of exceeded ones. Every year, he was supposed to take the next step; yet in his final regular season game against Tech he's the one they picked on to go up 14-0 early.

    I expect him to be an UFA and placed on some squad as an emergency DB for a roster during the NFL preseason, but that's kind of a pity since he was the #3-#5 best safety in his recruiting class and had offers from literally every Power-5 team.
     
  30. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 1,000+ Posts

    I know it's a different sport, but Kobe, LeBron, etc., seemed to do ok without a day on a college campus.
    And then you have the one and doners like Durant.
     

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