Obama's parting gifts to the American people

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  2. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I wonder how Drudge covered the organizations behind the "Tea Party"? Did hundreds and thousands of people simply spontaneously appear at the same locations with signs in hand?
     
  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Yes - we don't have Soros on our side.
     
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  4. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Husker,
    That is exactly what happened. Btw if you paid attention to the signs back then over 90% were hand made.
     
  5. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    They spontaneously showed up in the same location? Someone better tell David Koch that Americans for Prosperity wasted it's money. How 'bout Our Country Deserves Better PAC that ran a bus tour across the country. Or FreedomWorks which "trains volunteers, mobilizes campaigns and encourages them to mobilize". That sure sounds a lot like what the liberal activist groups are doing now but apparently FreedomWorks either doesn't exist or didn't help the Tea Party according to you. It was all spontaneous.

    I guess none of these organizations had anything to do with the movement:
     
  6. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Actually they most spontaneously showed up at town hall meeting complaining to their own party to do something about Obamacare which were the Republicans.
     
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  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Yes Husker when a townhall was cheduled and announced tea partiers spontaneously showed up. Why is that so difficult to understand?
    Do you never go hear what your elected pols have to Say?
    There were NO paid protestors/ attendees.
    IIRC the bus tour was an event with maybe 20 people on the bus who then spoke to the crowd.
    It was not a bus bringng in protestors.
    Now if an event was planned for a state capitol ot zDC yes peop,e chartered buses to get there
    But there were no buses of Republicans bused into say Seattle to protest a town hall
     
  8. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Oh...I see you are assuming these protesters are "paid" which I'd point out there is no current evidence of. Keep in mind, the initial statement was that these protests were being "organized" by activist groups which is what happened with the Tea Party participants.

    Essentially, in both cases there were well funded groups to organize the passionate participants to attend the town hall meetings. I'm not sure why that is such a controversial idea. For some reason there is an irrational sentiment to demonstrate the other side is different. Actually, they aren't other than they have a different perspective. In both cases, the participants don't know about the Town Halls and show up en mass without the influence of activist groups.

    Here is Trump's tweet on the topic. My post was to show that the same thing occurred for the Tea Party.

     
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  9. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    SH,

    Why is it the Dem party needs get out the vote (GOTV) efforts to win elections and not Republicans? Apparently, Dems require money for both votes and to have protesters show up to protest.
     
  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You do realize that "bus bringing in protesters" is a BS claim right? Even Rep. Chaffetz has now backed off that claim. Whereas previously he stated they were bussed across state lines he now claims they were Utah residents but from outside his district.
     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Put up or shut up. Where's the proof the protesters are paid? Without that proof, the claim is laughable in the context of 1.5M people showing up for Womxn's March and other assorted marches. It's so laughable as to impact the credibility of the one claiming it.
     
  12. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Two lines of proof:
    - Craig's list entries
    - People outside of state or crossing district lines to protest. No one does that unless paid.
     
  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    An anonymous Craig's List entry? Crossing state lines? Surely you have more evidence than that. Assuming the accusation of "crossing state lines" is true (even Chaffetz has recanted) how is that evidence of being paid? Hundreds of thousands used their own money to travel to D.C. for the Womxn's march yet you thing they wouldn't travel a much shorter distance to voice their opinion to a Congressman?

    Where's James O'Keefe when you need him? He's so busy trying to get publicity for a 2009 story that he's missing out on a easy pickings to prove these protesters are getting paid. Seriously, he simply needs to answer a Craig's List add, make some money and show up at a Town Hall and film it. Veritas...paging Veritas....
     
  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    That thread blows your last argument out of the water. It's not claiming anyone was paid. In fact, it's not even demonstrating anyone crossing state line but rather people traveling within the State of New York (Cornell students). I'm not sure what the argument is...that the participants at these town halls are organized? Duh...just like their Tea Party predecessors. Is that really controversial or is the rub really that there is a groundswell of dissatisfaction that is being targeted at these Congressman? If so, surely you were here on Hornfans chastising the Tea Party in 2009/2010.
     
  16. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    The protesters and their stooges in the media are representing themselves to be concerned neighbors, when in fact they are professional agitators.
     
  17. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    OK.
    Liberal organizations organizing efforts to voice feedback in congressional town halls = professional agitators.
    Conservative organizations organizing efforts (Tea Party) to voice feedback in congressional town halls = patriots.

    See the bias?
     
  18. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Cause and effect. Tea party groups organized after the spontaneous protests. For Dems, they hope for the opposite. See the difference?
     
  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    So, you're expanding the discussion beyond the Town Halls. The Town Halls were anything BUT spontaneous. The gatherings prior to those were but that isn't any different than the myriad of protests from the left at airports, city centers, etc.

    This attempt to paint the right as 100% spontaneous while the left anger as organized but not representative of the anger is ludicrous. You need look no further than Trump's plummeting poll number (Quinnipiac and NBCNews/Survey Monkey) this week to see evidence of that.
     
  20. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    If you don't think Dems need money to get voters to the polls or to participate in protests, unlike Republicans, you're blind.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    the final Q for Obama GDP is in

    Q4 GDP at 1.9%

    also the Trade Deficit ballooned near 9 year highs
     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    U.S. 2016 GDP

    Q1: 0.8%
    Q2: 1.4%
    Q3: 3.5%
    Q4: 1.9%
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    US Stimulus 2008-2016

    Fannie/Freddie:$7T
    Federal deficits:$10T
    State/Local deficits:$3T
    QE: $4.7T
    Total $24.7T

    = 156k Sept Jobs
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    these numbers^ are worse since Bannon was speaking here in 2011

     
  25. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    JF, I watched that Bannon vid from 2011 the other day. If only more people would take the time to watch this sobering, masterful speech and learn the reality we face.

    I also watched the 2010 documentary Generation Zero, written and directed by Bannon. Wow! It's amazing how much Trump fits what he said America needs even back then.

    Bannon is a special mind, no wonder most career politicians detest this guy and want him gone so bad.
     
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  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Amazing ....



    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...oj-slush-fund-bankrolling-leftist-groups.html

    "The Obama administration funneled billions of dollars to activist organizations through a Department of Justice slush fund scheme, according to congressional investigators.

    “It’s clear partisan politics played a role in the illicit actions that were made,” Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, told Fox News. “The DOJ is the last place this should have occurred.”

    Findings spearheaded by the House Judiciary Committee point to a process shrouded in secrecy whereby monies were distributed to a labyrinth of nonprofit organizations involved with grass-roots activism.


    “Advocates for big government and progressive power are using the Justice Department to extort money from corporations,” Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton told Fox News. “It’s a shakedown. It’s corrupt, pure and simple.”

    There is a recent effort by Republicans to eliminate the practice, which many believe was widely abused during the Obama administration.
     
  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    More on same as post above

    https://politicallyshort.com/2016/05/22/the-obama-regimes-criminal-syndicate/

    "...Following this pattern the DOJ has required these banks to distribute portions of their settlement payments to certain third-party groups which the DOJ directly influenced which groups would receive disbursements. Specifically, the DOJ narrowed the list of entities eligible to receive funds by selecting “HUD-approved housing counseling agencies” as the only entities to which the banks could make disbursements for credit. As the Wall Street Journal outlined in a piece highlighting the DOJ’s liberal slush fund, “the department is in the process of funneling more than half-a-billion dollars to liberal activist groups.”

    Among the radical leftist groups pre-approved by the settlement agreements to directly receive funds from the banks is none other than The National Council of La Raza, which bills itself as “the nation’s largest Hispanic activist organization.” Yet, a brief history lesson on the reality of La Raza, which literally translates to “the race,” shows us that the group has been connected to the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), an extremist Mexican race hate group which firmly believes in exploiting illegal immigration to bring about ‘La Reconquista’, a violent overthrow of the southern U.S. states that would be absorbed into Greater Mexico. It should come as no surprise that La Raza is favored under these settlement agreements given that the racist organization supports the Democratic cause of open borders while Cecilia Munoz, a La Raza senior vice president, also serves on the White House Domestic Policy Council.

    According to a February 2016 independent monitor report, there are 147 “HUD-approved counseling agencies” that make up these third party groups like La Raza that are currently receiving hundreds of millions of dollars directly from the banks under the DOJ settlement agreements......”
     
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  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Obama Administration used Justice Department "slush funds" to funnel billions of dollars to liberal anti-Trump activist organizations.

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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Obama corruption

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