OU Mike Stoops: 'It's not fair!'

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Horn69, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. Horn69

    Horn69 2,500+ Posts

    Awwww, bless his little heart. We can't defend so the rules are to blame. Waaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!
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  2. Texas Taps

    Texas Taps 5,000+ Posts


     
  3. lnghorn96

    lnghorn96 25+ Posts

    I am no Stoops brothers fan, but I think he brings up a good point. On plays like that, safeties and linebackers are put in a very difficult "lose lose" situation so to speak. The rule was obviously not enforced on KSU's first touchdown, and that's just poor officiating. The timing of his remarks causes them to appear as if they're sour grapes because they lost, but the content of his remarks is valid in my opinion.
     
  4. johnnyg88

    johnnyg88 500+ Posts

    In other words, he has no clue on how to defense these offenses....and that is his job.
     
  5. tejas77

    tejas77 1,000+ Posts

    ou sucks but they have a valid point on that play.
     
  6. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Seems to me it's good coaching to let players know that if OL are five yards downfield, they are defending a running play. Competitors like to know the rules and gain every advantage from that knowledge. When loose officiating invalidates tactics, naturally intensely competitive tacticians will complain. If officiating remains loose ... they will take advantage. Lord knows the Stoops brothers know how to do that.
     
  7. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    This whine is valid, but hypocritical at best, coming from a team which specializes in stretching every rule to its breaking point...a team which never is set for a couple of seconds in its hurry-up offense, a team which has great success with its wide receiver screens because they hold the defenders, a team which runs wide by holding at the point of attack, a team which specializes in signing players dismissed from other teams due to drug and violence charges...need I go on?
     
  8. YearOfTheSteer

    YearOfTheSteer 500+ Posts

    He wouldn't be complaining if they make their chip shot field goal and win the game.
     
  9. PropositionJoe

    PropositionJoe 2,500+ Posts

    he has a point
     
  10. chango

    chango 2,500+ Posts

    accuratehorn is spot on and quite accurate
     
  11. OldHippie

    OldHippie 2,500+ Posts

    If what he says causes officials to call the plays more accurately, it is a good thing and could help UT this Saturday. In my opinion, the pick play needs to be called more often as well.
     
  12. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    In baseball umps commonly have different strike zones. Pitchers have to adjust.

    Here, the rule is clear but some refs aren't calling it. You have to adjust and defenders have to learn to hold containment if not sure it's a run or pass.
    I don't blame him for complaining because he will probably start getting the call now, but we could come up with about 10 other things refs let slide during the entirety of a game, so every team has to make adjustments. Stoops sounds like he isn't capable of adjusting. That's his problem.

    I'd run it until they started flagging it.
     
  13. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Football rules and officiating has moved to give an unfair advantage to offenses. It's gone that way because football fans like scoring. Unfortunately for defensive coaches, you have to accept that you'll always be handicapped when competing with an equally talented offense. Recognize you start with 1 hand tied behind your back and work from there.
     
  14. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    OU always has guys blocking farther downfield then that on receiver screens anyway.


     
  15. tchill

    tchill 25+ Posts

    OU's blocking on the WR screen would be legal if the ball was completed behind the line of scrimmage, but most of the time it isn't. Stoops needs to be careful what he wishes for as per calling the rules as they are written.
     
  16. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    As a fan reminded me at the tailgate last Saturday, OU used to train their centers to twitch the ball prior to the snap to draw offsides penalties two or three times a game, until opposing coaches complained enough to get officials to watch for this move.
    I assume Mike Stoops isn't bringing that up in this discussion.
     
  17. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    He's got a good point. I don't like the 3yds downfield period, but that's just me.
     
  18. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Agree with the complaint. Also agree that OU has to abide by it, too - it's possible Mike might not have been informed on that part.
     
  19. TSIP4LIFE

    TSIP4LIFE 250+ Posts

    Mike is correct. At best, two of those lineman were 5 yards downfield by the time the ball was caught. Possibly 6.
     
  20. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts


     
  21. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    So, he's saying just about everyone has illegal blocks or illegal men downfield on these plays? Normally for OU, "everyone does it" means that something shouldn't be punished.
     

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