Pete Stark, D-CA on gay marriage/polygamy

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Texas, May 16, 2008.

  1. Texas

    Texas 250+ Posts

    This is from a newly-announced superdelegate for Obama, Fortney "Pete" Stark. Wonder what Sen. Obama thinks of this (audio included)?

  2. naked_bongo

    naked_bongo 500+ Posts

    I tend to agree with him. I just haven't hashed out all the government reasons for rejecting plural marriage - my guess is it could be an administrative nightmare (honoring and determining benefits, etc), but I'm not confident that's a good enough reason to deny a person his/her right to marry the person(s) of their choosing.
  3. TexonLongIsland

    TexonLongIsland 2,500+ Posts

    the slippery slope is always a fun ride. Yiiiippeeeee
  4. EasternHorn

    EasternHorn 500+ Posts

    Naked Bongo,

    While I'm not going to say you are wrong, I will give my viewpoint on the difference between gay marriage and legalizing polygamy.

    I believe being gay is not a choice but a born trait. I know some people believe it is some type of choice, but I don't believe that at all. Therefore, I believe that gay people should have every right given to straight people.

    I don't feel the same way about polygamy. While certain religions may endorse the practice, I don't think people are born with a polygamy trait. Also, if we extended benefits to polygamists, then it seems we would be granting greater rather than equal benefits.

    Anyway, just my 2 cents.
  5. Texas

    Texas 250+ Posts

  6. naked_bongo

    naked_bongo 500+ Posts

  7. MTF

    MTF 1,000+ Posts

    Do the federal government and states simply refuse to recognize plural marriages, as with gay marriages, or do they actually prohibit plural marriages altogether? It's the latter, right?
  8. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    Yeah, it's illegal and you can go to jail for it, though I don't think it's regularly enforced.
  9. EasternHorn

    EasternHorn 500+ Posts

  10. BigWill

    BigWill 2,500+ Posts

    Stark usually spends all of his time ******* with surgery centers, imaging centers, and other medical dealies. Glad to hear he's distracted from that for a bit.
  11. ousuxndallas

    ousuxndallas 500+ Posts

    Quite a slippery slope. Why not allow bestiality? Or marriage to minors?

    The gov't has to draw the line somewhere. Where they draw that line is up for debate, and both sides fight for their ideas, with the ultimate compromise becoming law. This is the American and Constitutional way.
  12. SomeMildLanguage

    SomeMildLanguage 500+ Posts

    Pete Stark has been trying to eliminate Health Savings Accounts, because people are saving more than they are spending from the accounts, which makes him pretty much retarded.
  13. naked_bongo

    naked_bongo 500+ Posts

  14. BA93

    BA93 1,000+ Posts

  15. NameAlreadyInUse

    NameAlreadyInUse 500+ Posts

  16. brandons87

    brandons87 250+ Posts

    Slippery slope arguments are by definition, logical fallacies.

    Gay marriage and polygamy are jokes, but using a slippery slope argument against them is ludicrous
  17. washparkhorn

    washparkhorn 2,500+ Posts

    I agree with Stark. None of our business if Pete wants to marry Paul or Mary AND Paul.
  18. RollingwoodHorn

    RollingwoodHorn 500+ Posts

    I don't really have a problem with polygamy. I can't say it seems appealing to me but so long as all the parties involved are consenting adults, I don't really care.
  19. PiGuy

    PiGuy 250+ Posts

    Don't really care as long as only one pair gets the associated government benefits and the kids are treated right.
  20. parkerco

    parkerco 500+ Posts

    I think polygamy, or at least having multiple sexual partners, is a trait a lot, if not most men naturally have. Monogamy is a pretty recent concept is the history of mankind.

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