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Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Seattle Husker, May 27, 2021.

  1. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    ********. Seattle-metro was ground zero for the US and handled it pretty well with the notable exception of allowing a few Pro teams to play in Lumen field after the shutdown. It was a very strong public/private partnership that bent the spread curve early which is critical because this was before we had more effective treatment options resulting in a much higher rate of death.
     
  2. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Trump deserves credit for his decision to block traffic from China. Does it matter whether the decision was driven by Stephen Miller-esque xenophobia? It was the right decision, even in hindsight.

    Given all the previous exhibited xenophobia by the Trump admin this is where they were their own worst enemy. They had limited credibility to draw from that the decision was being made for health reasons. It was a boy who cried wolf scenario. Additionally, you could point to delays in closing travel from Italy and other Caucasian dominated countries you can see that there was more resistance to putting travel bans in place for countries like us even though some of those countries like Italy were clearly in the throws of a health crisis. As New York later showed, it was the Italian variant that bit them the hardest. Still, as someone who lives within a predominantly Asian community I do appreciate that Trump limited travel when he did.

    Incidentally, a Chinese neighbor on my block delivered a dozen N95 masks to every house on the block early during the Pandemic. I thought that was a great gesture to show that we were all in this together.

    Handing money to the vaccine developers was other thing I give Trump credit for. It was "low hanging fruit" but still, they threw money and guarantees and spread it around amongst many pharma companies. Great decision.
     
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  3. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    With all of the wasteful spending, less than $300K is a drop in the bucket...and that is presuming they paid the fourteen cents per tablet that I would have paid at Kroger...

    My guess is the State would have paid even less than that given government and quantity of order...
     
  4. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I'm gonna label you a hostile witness.

    There's a certain amount of things that both sides were ignorant of. If you can't see that knowing the nature of the virus in February and not admitting to it until months later is not helpful to the attack of the virus then I don't know what to do for you. Trump's attitude toward dealing with public health has led DIRECTLY to vaccine hesitancy and we will not be done with this thing as herd immunity is not going to take affect.

    Use the defense production act. Coordinate PPE, testing, etc. Don't make them compete against each other and the federal government for supplies.

    Getting vaccinated in private was a total **** move as well.
     
  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Oklahoma seeking to return $2M worth of hydroxychloroquine

    He got hosed. $2,000,000. Should have used bitcoin.
     
  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Lol. Fair enough.

    Some of this is fair, some isn't. However, I'm not here to defend Trump. He did some things right and some things wrong, and of course his messaging was atrocious. Those things are fair points of criticism. It's the "my **** don't stink," and "we would have done better part" that awakens the sleeping right wing giant in me.

    And what I find kinda interesting is that you're probably to SH's right on policy, but he's much less of a partisan than your are.
     
  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    The Oklahoma governor should have looked at the studies that overwhelmingly show that it works instead of the propaganda that says it doesn't.
     
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  8. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Wait are you suggesting Seattle followed the science? That’s freaking hilarious. Never stop being you. Never.
     
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  9. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, the actual science known at the time not the psuedo-science BS like the Hydroxychloroquine supporters. Wait...weren't you supportive of that, right Doctor...err Administrator?
     
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  10. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    PLANDEMIC!!!!
    Jade Helm!!!!
     
  11. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I resemble that.
     
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  12. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Pretty sure Seattle allowed mass demonstrations and a homeless camp to be built downtown or in some other major area. That is not following the "science." It was the hypocrisy shown by liberal mayors and governors across the country. The dumbass mayor of Nashville encouraged it to only to have public and private property destroyed.

    I know very little about hydroxycloroquine as I am neither a physician or pharmacist. Accordingly, I never promoted it. However, with no alternatives at the time, I certainly would not try to prevent a doctor from prescribing it to a patient.
     
  13. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Seattle shut down the first week of March with all the mask/social distancing accoutrements. They had little control of the BLM protests just like every other city across the US as >1M took to the streets. Aside from backing out of CHAZ for a week to pour water on the escalating tensions I'm not sure what else the city could be expected to do. With that said, some of the BLM marches spanned miles and were silent because of the respect for Covid (social distancing/masks). I didn't travel to any of the protesters anyone but the ******* looters was generally masked up, including in CHAZ.

    If I misremembered I apologize for lumping you into that crowd. There were multiple posters on the West Mall defending Hydroxychloroquine usage despite the lack of science to support that position. My point is that as the science evolved the local authorities made Covid a priority and thus Seattle bent that curve, much moreso than some rural counties in the State that have struggled as recently as a month ago.
     
  14. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Guilty. Still am.
     
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  15. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor



    Just asking questions...
     
  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I'm a bit of a vaccine skeptic, but it's because of things like blood clots. If I found out that the vaccine caused magnetism, I'd get it right away. I'd love to be able to stick a key to my forehead. I'd never lose my keys. That would be a game changer.
     
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  17. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 1,000+ Posts

    From a different angle...

    I caught the virus early on. In my case, like many, it's very possible the vaccine carries a bigger health threat than the virus itself, going forward.

    People like to paint folks like me as anti vaxers. Not the case at all. If you want to take it, please do. In my case, and in my wife's case, there's enough "science " out there to opt out for the time being
     
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  18. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    North Carolina county bans Coca-Cola soda machines as a statement against the Multi-National company's stance on the GA Election then reverses course after it's pointed out that Coca-Cola Consolidated is a local company that distributes the machines and local Surry County jobs were at stake.

     
  19. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    This may be the first and last time that I agree with you. You may want to re-visit that thought this fall.
     
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  20. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

  21. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Update: this Republican lawmaker set a record as the first member ever to be expelled from the Oregon House. The vote was 59-1. Former Rep Neuman was the lone vote against his own expelling.
     
  22. OUBubba

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  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I'll reserve judgment on this until we know more specifics. I can think of plausible scenarios in which this would be justifiable.
     
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  24. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Seems more relevant now.

    Almost like they knew the answer to the question.
     
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  26. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    DOJ IG Michael Horowitz opening an investigation into the DOJ's investigations of Schiff and Swalwell (in addition to their aids and family) specific to them receiving leaks about the Russia investigation.
     
  27. n64ra

    n64ra 1,000+ Posts

    Good quote - not your quote but Caudle's. Too bad folks in Texas don't always think that way for their own jurisdiction unless the FAA makes them.

    Chick-fil-A will be allowed back at San Antonio Airport after deal with feds
     
  28. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    I chuckled at the fact CFA has pretty much said 'yeah, but no...'

    Will be interesting whether they re-evaluate now that air travel is opening up again compared to the events of the past year...
     
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  29. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Getting really hard to figure out which leaks are investigational and which are not.
     
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  30. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Leaks that constantly happened against Trump are fine along with any other republican. Any other ones that affect liberals, the dems and their media stooges go after people. Pretty simple.
     
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