QB Battle

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by LonghornCatholic, Aug 14, 2021.

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Who Wins the QB Battle

Poll closed Sep 9, 2021.
  1. Casey Thompson

    30 vote(s)
    48.4%
  2. Hudson Card

    32 vote(s)
    51.6%
  1. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    This is an important point. My evaluation is that Thompson has figured out how to take what the defense is giving, Card hasn't learned how to process what the defense is giving "yet". A big part of that is seeing when it's better to take off running and when it's better to stay in the pocket because the defense isn't giving a run.

    At least that's the way I see it until Casey proves me wrong, or the light comes on for Hudson.
     
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  2. p_town_horn

    p_town_horn 1,000+ Posts

    I think the speed of the Arky defense just moved a little too fast for Card. He seemed to know his reads, wasn't bailing on the pocket too early, and was making good throws in the Louisiana game despite some poor protection. However, one thing that always separates SEC defenses from most college programs is the speed. I think the Arky game was just a little too fast for a RS freshman to process on time and he stalled out. A little time to adjust to the game speed and Card will be fantastic.

    Assuming Thompson and Card both stay with the program and stay healthy, I would actually expect Card to take over as starter next season as the game slows down for him a little bit. Not a knock on Thompson, but Card has the golden arm.
     
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  3. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    This is ridiculous. Hudson Card is obviously better than Casey Thompson. Every one who doesn't think so is an idoit!

    Ok, I'm done, please continue..... :yes:
     
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  4. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Pass the dunce hat this way

    :beertoast:
     
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  5. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    I think there’s a tendency to confuse potential with “game performance.” It seems like many folks are hung up on Card’s potential. Maybe he has it, I’m not sure. To me, it’s an Applewhite versus Simms argument. Simms had all the tools and the credentials. Simply though, Applewhite was a winner.

    Until I see evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe that Casey Thompson is the better “game” quarterback. And frankly, I’ve seen nothing yet to suggest that he can’t be extremely effective. As an example, he seems to have good pocket presence, good escapability, good vision, the ability to throw the ball on a rope to his receivers when he needs to, and deep accuracy. With respect to many of those attributes, from what I have seen, his ability exceeds that of Card. Only time will tell.

    I was sold on CT after the Alamo Bowl game performance based on three plays: The two bullets across the middle to Moore were on the money and impressive. And, his deep throw to Dixon, perfectly dropped in, was impressive because of how he slipped the rush and flung the ball, very accurately.

    I’m prepared to be proven wrong but I’m starting to get the feeling that I won’t be. This kid may soon be underrated no more.
     
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  6. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    Good points made. Btw just trying some levity and was not serious about you CT lovers being idoits.
     
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  7. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Damn it, Zucker. I took you so seriously that I was tracking down Puppy Dog Madden to get me one of those Mr T starter kits with "Idoit" in diamonds.
     
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  8. gahornphan

    gahornphan 500+ Posts

    Cards should starts.
     
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  9. BornOrange0855

    BornOrange0855 100+ Posts

    I don't think it matters one iota which QB plays if our offensive line plays the way it did vs Arkansas. They were worse than awful in that game. The Rice game doesn't prove anything.
     
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  10. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    Sure it matters. When the o-line breaks down you have to have a mobile QB. Card could not seem to make the decision to run against Arkansas and Casey has proven he has no problem tucking and running. For that alone I support Casey starting because you're right, the o-line is terrible.
     
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  11. BornOrange0855

    BornOrange0855 100+ Posts

    I might be wrong but wasn't Card considered one of the top dual threat QBs coming out of high school?
     
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  12. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 2,500+ Posts

    Yes he can run
     
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  13. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    2nd dual threat nationally. The question isn't Card's mobility, it seems he wants to wait for the throw to come open, and sometimes waits so long the sack becomes inevitable. So what I've observed is the problem stems more from decisiveness on when to tuck and run. Usually, a mobile freshman QB will run too soon. I'm very OK that Card displays the opposite tendency.
     
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  14. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 2,500+ Posts

    Ok, bad o-line play was evident
    However this loss was on Sark. He gets a bid fat "F" for in game adjustments. It was evident that Card was in over his head early on and he should have sent Thompson in during the second quarter. And/or Sark could have helped Card by quick passes or screens or passes to RBs out in the flats or crossing routes behind the blitzing LBs to build Card's confidence. And/or Sark could have done a much better job of attacking the perimeter. So Sark's lack of in game adjustments, a la Tom Herman, had a great deal to do with that woodshed whipping we got.
     
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  15. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 2,500+ Posts

    Well the real problem for Card during this game, was mental. You alluded to it. He was like a "green" lieutenant in his first battle. With bombs blasting around him and his men dying he couldn't pull the trigger on a pass or a run. He had receivers open. Thankfully this is something that can be overcome. He just needs to own it and come out every time with his big boy pants on. I'm not mad at him. Heated battles or highly competitive environments can and will produce some degree of shock and he didn't handle it well. But, luckily, for the longhorn nation we have Thompson.
    Sark needs to settle Card down and develop his confidence and turn him into a warrior. Maybe, grabbing Card by his face mask and looking him in the eyes and telling him he is a warrior (something like that) before he steps on the field would help Card with his psyche.
    Its good that Card is getting a regular dose of playing time.:yes:
     
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  16. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    ^He will learn through experience. Glad to see Sark giving him some playing time.
     
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  17. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 2,500+ Posts

    Well, I don't think either QB is being given a long leash.
    If CT turns the ball over a few times, especially leading to defensive score, then don't be surprised to see HC start the next game.
    Don't get me wrong.
    I hope CT leads us to a conference championship.
     
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  18. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    I opine the loss to Arkansas was on the coaches, not Card.
    No adjustments to the defensive line as pig rolled up 333 yards on the ground.
    No adjustment to our running game, continuing to run directly into into the middle of a three man line.
    Whittington dropping pin point pass.
    Card should never been benched, but wouldn’t matter much with our defensive line scheme not shutting down the run and forcing pig qb to pass. Heck, even the Rice coaches knew to shut down the run and force pig to pass.
    Watch what aggie defense does tomorrow and wonder if our DC is dumber than the Rice DC and aggie DC.

    CT will continue to throw picks(threw an int against Rice) until Card is reinserted
    And valuable playing time will be lost by Card.
    If anyone is worried about a qb going to the portal, which one would you rather see go CT or Card.
    Sark is not making the right call.

    Rice is not a measuring stick and Card needed the playing time.
     
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  19. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Agree on the defense and Sarks mistake on loading up the box to force the pass but completely disagree in your qb analysis. That’s what chat boards are for, right?
     
  20. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    I think Casey has Outperformed Card. So I'm good.

    But what I really like is that this kid of a Sooner who grew up in Oklahoma has stuck around, waited for his time, and stepped up. When Card was named starter, he didn't hit the portal.

    I think he has earned a lot of respect with how he's handled himself.
     
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  21. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    You mean son of a Sooner scumbag criminal douchebag?
     
  22. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    He was but sometimes the children are the exact opposite. Sometimes in a good way, sometimes in a bad way.
     
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  23. LAGA4

    LAGA4 250+ Posts

    Offense scores points when Casey is in.
    That's his job and he does it. Keep starting the guy that moves the offense and scores points.
     
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  24. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    Not sure how to phone this perfectly clear but here goes. Illegal drugs are available because there's a demand. They're not in demand because they're available. If you think I'm wrong research Prohibition.
     
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  25. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    Against Arkansas, Bijan was 19/69, averaging 3.6 ypc. Apparently, he just was overwhelmed by the moment. Whenever he would get the ball, there would be Arkansas players in the backfield, and he just looked like a deer in the headlights. Probably, he missed some reads, and should have broken some tackles.

    But against Rice, Roschon Johnson averaged 37 yards a carry, and Keilan Robinson averaged 16.6 yards a carry. That's what I like to see! So, when those guys are in there, I just know that the ball gets moved down the field. If we had only benched Bijan in the Arkansas game....
     
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  26. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Nicely played there vy.
     
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  27. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    Just joshin’
     
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  28. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    Anybody still wanna pimp for Card to start over Casey? The dude just produces touchdowns.
     
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  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I would like to note that I voted for Casey before the QB announcement.
     
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  30. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 2,500+ Posts

    Me too
     
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