Raid on Trump's home

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn2RunAgain, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    If you are up for recall in your own state, you are not a national candidate. An opponent would simply run video of his French Laundry episode with a backdrop of thieves hitting Walgreens then running out the door jumping over homeless people.
     
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  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Reading McCarthy's op we see what we will be going through for next 2 years.
    How sad for our country.
     
  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    For most candidates, I think that would work. Again, he has major vulnerabilities. However, I don't think it would work for Trump, because he'd go down too many "stop the steal" rabbit trails, which the media would reinforce. Again, it would be a very easy diversion for Newsom.
     
  4. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    As someone who believes that the election was stolen I agree with you that Trump needs to move forward and quit living in 2020. Let the statheads and the lawyers keep working behind the scenes to get things done but just stay out of it.
     
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  5. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I don't expect Trump to change much But I do think he learns from his mistakes.
    Unfortunately his massive rallies reinforce him. Are there enough to overcome the orange man bad mean tweet people?

    But I heard Dan Bongino say yesterday he had dinner with Trump Wed and Trump admitted he make a mistake with many of his admin hires. He tried to hire seemingly qualified people who were not aligned with him, Thinking they would put best interest of America ahead of dislike.
    He of course knows now how wrong he was.He will never make that mistake again
    Even so look at how much good he did for our country. The bitterest Trump hater can not deny he did much good for us.
     
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  6. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Gonna disagree with you on this, and your follow-up comment says why:

    See.. that's his mistake in his mind. Not being abrasive. Not saying stupid stuff on Twitter. Not being unable to let the election stuff go and focus on issues. Not in dividing the party. No, his mistake was that he didn't hire people LOYAL TO HIM. And in his mind, when he talks about "putting best interest of America ahead of dislike," what he means is that it is in America's best interest to go along with whatever he does and attack anyone who disagrees with him.

    I think Trump did a lot of good things, and there's no question to me that he's been railroaded and misrepresented on a lot of things. Being a narcist who puts his own ego ahead of the greater good is not of those things.
     
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  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    prod
    I understand your point. BUT Trump with his massive ego got stuff done that no one else did AND got it done with hostile media pols hollywood and rinos against him every single day.
    Where would we be if we were in 8 years of Hillary?
     
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  8. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    That's no argument for Trump in 2024.
     
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  9. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    That's the problem. When he admits his mistakes as posted by Prod, he never once mentions his personality and behavior.

    The fact is he's not going to win again with his massive ego and narcissism. He's simply turned off too many people. Trump being the Rep nominee in 2024 will just allow the Dems to take us right down the path to Fascism.
     
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  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Ultimately, he doesn't take responsibility for anything or admit to any kind of real mistake. When he admits to a mistake, it's never admitting to a real mistake. It's something like, "I didn't follow my own instincts enough" or "I hired people who do weren't loyal enough to me.". That's not a real admission of fault. It's like a prospective employee telling the interviewer that he works too hard.

    That doesn't mean it's all BS. His administration leaked like a sieve. There's no question that there were hostile people in there. However, that didn't sink him. Poor handling of things and acting like a jackass did.
     
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  11. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Please. Trump could have done all of those things, and it would not matter because stupid people would still believe the media portrayal of him because of the (R) after his name.

    The egg head, elitist, academia mentality and bubble the media, Dems, and "celebrities" live in hates any Republican. They loved Trump right up until the escalator. After that, they have stopped at nothing to bring him down.
     
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  12. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Ha!

    They found the nuke codes and released them to the media (after programming in new codes):

    100-100-100-1-100-100-100-1
    86-75-30-9-86-75-30-9
    1999
     
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  13. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Don't forget 25-6-2-4
     
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  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Like I've said a million times, it's not about pleasing any of those people.
     
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  15. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    They can’t be pleased. That’s the point. But they use their power to convince people what they want them to think of him and other republicans.
     
  16. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    But they can't convince everybody. If they could, nobody would think inflation was a problem, we'd still be having Covid lockdowns, and of course, Trump would never have won the 2016 election. (In fact, virtually no Republican would win any election.)

    Other than partisan Democrats, nobody just reflexively embraces what they hear from the media, and even partisan Democrats don't truly buy it. It's just mental masturbation for them or what a good friend of mine calls "political pornography." They just like the validation. They used to be far more influential, but it has been waning for years. And of course now, it's probably at its lowest point. It can still influence people, but they can be convinced to ignore them if a credible and well-executed case is made. A guy like Desantis can make that case. Trump has too much **** on him, is far, far too easy for the Left to exploit, and has soured on too many people to do it now.
     
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Why? The DOJ filed a motion to deny an independent special master. Why?
    "Sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News that in addition to their seizure of potentially privileged records, the Department of Justice denied a request from Trump’s lawyers for an independent special master to review the records.

    Sources told Fox News that Trump’s team was informed that boxes labeled A-14, A-26, A-43, A-13, and A-33 as well as a set of documents, all of which were itemized on the FBI’s property receipt, contained information covered by attorney-client privilege and that some records could be covered by executive privilege."
    Is This Proof the Mar-a-Lago Raid Was a Fishing Expedition?
     
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  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Why take Trump's passports?
     
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  20. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Because the Lib and woke FBI knows that they CAN take ANY "evidence" and stuff at Mira Lago beyond the warrant.

    So they did, why:

    1. FBI is fully corrupt.
    2. Trump was not there.
    3. Trump lawyers not there
    4. Cameras were turned off
    5. DOJ is corrupt
    6. Complicit media will not hold them accountable.
    7. SWAMP will circle the wagons to defend vs. evil Trump.

    Biden, Harris admin. is a F' joke people... but they don't know it!
     
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  21. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 1,000+ Posts

    The fbi is going to manufacture a crime here. If they feel like they can't, for whatever reason, they'll keep this nonsense going thru November 2024 to F up Trump’s chances.

    The fbi has to go. Tear it down, start over
     
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  22. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    DOJ admitted passports were taken in error. Wants to return them. I guess the FBI there had never seen a passport before.
    .What BS.
    We must dismantle DOJ& FBI
     
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  23. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I am surprised that after first lying then having to admit they stole the passports the FBI didn't try to weasel out of it claiming Trump was a flight risk.
     
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    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  28. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    So the FBI is corrupt and incompetent? Where are they on finding the SCOTUS leak?
     
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  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    iis? What? And miss out on all those peaceful demonstrations at Justices homes?
     
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  30. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    They'll find it when OJ finds the real killer.
     
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