Discussion in 'West Mall' started by I35, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I called it here way before the talks of this started. The reason I did is because I seen the numbers of blacks moving to the Republican Party. As predicted the Dems played that card.

    “Why should people who never own slaves give money to people who were never slaves?”

    Ryan Fournier
  2. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Liberals love creating political issues that don’t exist.
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  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    I think this shows how desperate Dems are. Are there any identity issues the Clown Car idiots haven't ginned up?
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  4. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    I think this is more about Presidential Election pandering than any real attempt at paying reparations.

    First of all, any real attempt at compensation would bankrupt the country in no time. I've seen liberal college professors estimate damage claims way up in the trillions of dollars based on the estimated hours of slave labor and other factors.

    Second, how do you determine who gets paid? Just figuring that out would take years and years, so the Dems would probably want to skirt that issue and pay all African-Americans. Oh, and what about white slaves?

    Thirdly who pays it; American taxpayers, families that owned slaves, companies that benefited from slavery, all the above, etc.

    Lastly, you'd open the door to other mistreated groups like American Indians. One Dem candidate (maybe Gillibrand) even wants to compensate gays for not being able to claim marital status on tax returns until recently.
  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    The Federal Government still owes my family for cattle and property the Commanches killed and stole 150 years ago. Can I get a reparation too?
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  6. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    A. I don't get how this could be actually done.
    B. It's a loser politically.
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  7. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    This is twice in the last couple of days you're agreeing with the majority here. It may be a sign of the impending apocalypse...
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  8. Hollandtx

    Hollandtx 250+ Posts

    I will happily give them 1,000,000 Schrute bucks to divide among themselves.
    There, I've done my part.
  9. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Why are you mfers lauging at this? I wouldn't exist today if my great great grandfather didn't have to go back to Uvalde to attend to some business. You ******* owe me some cows!
  10. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    I also had another great grandfather who was a poboy in Mississippi fight for the North in the Civil War because he didn't own a slave and didn't want to fight for those who did. So you can stick reparations up your ***.
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  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Reparations aren't going to happen. There are too many very obvious problems with them that any thinking adult can very plainly see, and you'll notice that the candidates are calling for "dialogue" or a commission to "study" them. Nobody is pushing for anything real. It's going to end up as another broken promise - the latter-day 40 acres and a mule.

    In the present, it's nothing more than chatter intended to reinvigorate black support and enthusiasm for Democrats. It's political pornography - nothing more.
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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  13. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Dayton, Ohio,

    August 7, 1865

    To My Old Master, Colonel P.H. Anderson, Big Spring, Tennessee

    Sir: I got your letter, and was glad to find that you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this, for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Colonel Martin's to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living. It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again, and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me that Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.

    I want to know particularly what the good chance is you propose to give me. I am doing tolerably well here. I get twenty-five dollars a month, with victuals and clothing; have a comfortable home for Mandy,—the folks call her Mrs. Anderson,—and the children—Milly, Jane, and Grundy—go to school and are learning well. The teacher says Grundy has a head for a preacher. They go to Sunday school, and Mandy and me attend church regularly. We are kindly treated. Sometimes we overhear others saying, "Them colored people were slaves" down in Tennessee. The children feel hurt when they hear such remarks; but I tell them it was no disgrace in Tennessee to belong to Colonel Anderson. Many darkeys would have been proud, as I used to be, to call you master. Now if you will write and say what wages you will give me, I will be better able to decide whether it would be to my advantage to move back again.

    As to my freedom, which you say I can have, there is nothing to be gained on that score, as I got my free papers in 1864 from the Provost-Marshal-General of the Department of Nashville. Mandy says she would be afraid to go back without some proof that you were disposed to treat us justly and kindly; and we have concluded to test your sincerity by asking you to send us our wages for the time we served you. This will make us forget and forgive old scores, and rely on your justice and friendship in the future. I served you faithfully for thirty-two years, and Mandy twenty years. At twenty-five dollars a month for me, and two dollars a week for Mandy, our earnings would amount to eleven thousand six hundred and eighty dollars. Add to this the interest for the time our wages have been kept back, and deduct what you paid for our clothing, and three doctor's visits to me, and pulling a tooth for Mandy, and the balance will show what we are in justice entitled to. Please send the money by Adams's Express, in care of V. Winters, Esq., Dayton, Ohio. If you fail to pay us for faithful labors in the past, we can have little faith in your promises in the future. We trust the good Maker has opened your eyes to the wrongs which you and your fathers have done to me and my fathers, in making us toil for you for generations without recompense. Here I draw my wages every Saturday night; but in Tennessee there was never any pay-day for the negroes any more than for the horses and cows. Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire.

    In answering this letter, please state if there would be any safety for my Milly and Jane, who are now grown up, and both good-looking girls. You know how it was with poor Matilda and Catherine. I would rather stay here and starve—and die, if it come to that—than have my girls brought to shame by the violence and wickedness of their young masters. You will also please state if there has been any schools opened for the colored children in your neighborhood. The great desire of my life now is to give my children an education, and have them form virtuous habits.

    Say howdy to George Carter, and thank him for taking the pistol from you when you were shooting at me.

    From your old servant,

    Jourdon Anderson
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  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    It's an old excuse. When I was in first and second grade I went to school in Oakland, California. In both years, I was one of only two white kids in the class. From time to time, I got punched for no apparent reason by black kids. If asked, they'd routinely say, "because my mama said you made us slaves." Race-based contempt and justification for violence was something they were taught at home. Well, if this guy was taught the same thing over the years, I'm not surprised he'd use it as an excuse now.

    And call me a "victim-blamer" if you want, but this girl was an idiot if she didn't see this coming. If you meet a dude at 5 am, and he says, "yo, baby, come with me to the roof of my project building" or frankly go anywhere with him in private, it doesn't take a genius to see that he's up to no good. He's expecting something sexual, and if he's a bad guy, he might force it. And if you just met him, you can't know if he's a bad guy or not. This white girl's parents didn't teach her well either.
  15. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I'm thinking the cost of bringing slaves to America has far exceeded the benefits received by a few, but it will be difficult to calculate how much they owe us.
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  16. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    That's to be expected given the Dem's policy of celebrating the victimhood of blacks and denigrating white's as sons and daughters of racists and slave holders. They're just stoking up racial hatred instead of working to get past it.
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  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    I am still trying to figure out why the USA is the only nation out of almost every country ( including many still today)in the world has people calling for reparation and why so many insist on fanning the racist flame.
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  19. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    It's liberalism. It's not supposed to make sense.
  20. EDT

    EDT 500+ Posts

    Elect Bernie President, AOC VP. Sign into law the green new deal, eliminate all student debt, pay the three trillion plus in reparations. Put into law that Texas can secede again. Win Win!:hookem:
  21. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Right after reparations are paid to the zen environmentalist Comanches for us stealing Texas from them and saying all those harsh things about them
  22. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Can we succeed first?
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  23. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    I'm guessing a properly cooked brisket won't do it?
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  24. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    That would be awesome.
  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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