Roe is dead

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by NJlonghorn, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    You didn't actually read my post. did you?
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Lol. Of course, any post that is somewhat favorable to Switzer will get pooped by somebody.
     
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  3. guy4321

    guy4321 500+ Posts

    I see.

    True, but now to really get Bubba's boilers bubbling, let's talk about about something really controversial to him. No, not how Trump is a top five president all-time or how great the current Supreme Court is. Let's bring up OU's illegitimate claims to the 1956 and 1974 football national championships. :)

    1956 - OU 10-0 but no bowl game; only one ranked opponent. Tennessee 10-0 going into a bowl game; two ranked opponents including at #2. (Final polls done before bowl games.)
    1974 - on probation so a ridiculous claim even if they had a 100-0 record.
     
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  4. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Also, Bud Wilkinson hated puppies and baby Jesus.
     
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  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    We pale in comparison to aggy and bama. :)
     
  6. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Catholic like Sarkisian

    At least one Lib gets it...

     
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  7. guy4321

    guy4321 500+ Posts

    That's for sure. Retroactive claims are far more egregious. I fully expect aggy to find at least two more to claim by 2025 so they can state they have more than Texas. I hope OU and Texas don't start claiming more, but somewhat expect it to be like Bama.

    Back on topic, I'm curious what the courts will say regarding this Rabbi's claims.

    Rabbi fighting Florida's anti-abortion law is on a mission to help religious groups challenge 'theocratic tyranny'
     
  8. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    In a more serious manner, he was by far the worst color guy I've ever heard. Those Raycom duos with him and Frank Fallon (I think that's who he was teamed with) were just brutal.
     
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  9. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Just saw the '69 Texas-OU game on LHN the other night. Yep...
     
  10. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    And that's when he was younger and relatively coherent!

    "Well you can see on the replay, the quarterback hands it off to his tailback, and he's able to get past the line of scrimmage to pick up positive yardage."
     
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  11. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad OSU Game Prediction Champion

    Well this thread sure transformed.
     
  12. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Don't you even message board, Bro?
     
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  13. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad OSU Game Prediction Champion

    I guess I should trans or some sh*t.
     
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  14. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

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  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Garm
    I understand
    But it seems to me an abortion is an abortion.
    Why should there be exempt methods of execution.
     
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  16. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Timing is everything imo.
     
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  17. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    the most pragmatic reason.... because this zero tolerance approach will lose the GOP elections. A lot of them.

    You can have your personal feelings on where to draw the line but the majority of America is somewhere in the grey area camp of limited, safe.
    - allow for rape, incest, medical safety of mother
    - allow up to 10 weeks only for other reasons

    If the GOP, even a few states, start to go zero tolerance the GOP will lose in a big way. Are you ready to lose elections and lose on all the other agenda items just to have your way on abortion ??
     
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  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    BOSD
    Not sure
    Are you saying you think most Pubs want the abortion pill ok'd .

    Btw I am not advocating either side but if people are pro life, anti abortion then aren't they against the act, not the method?
     
  19. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I do think they want it legal. My understanding is that medication is only given during the first 10 weeks. Most Americans and certainly most women want this option.

    Very few are comfortable with the "anytime for any reason" approach to abortion and using abortion as a recurring birth control method, BUT even fewer are comfortable with the idea that a woman can be required to continue a pregnancy from rape/incest or in danger of the mother. And most want at least some leniency for accidental pregnancies. .

    At the end of the day it may not be the optimum solution but we are in a democracy after all and what the other side wants should be considered. Particularly when the other side of this debate means that 85% don't agree with zero tolerance.
     
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  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Come on. You can afford the child support.

    In all seriousness though, if one believes that life begins at conception (which most pro-life activists do), how can they tolerate any form of post-fertilization birth control?
     
  21. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Threatening doctors prescribing a drug that's been legal for years? No thanks. That's just too extreme for me.
     
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  22. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mr D asks the correct question
    But Now it is up to each state to chart their own course

    Garm sincere question.
    If you are against abortion how can you then say you are ok with the "abortion pill"?

    I do wish there were a way for the it to"safe Rare and legal
    But we can see that for so many abortion is a form of birth control.
     
  23. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Because it's done in the privacy of one's house and with a doctor's supervision.
     
  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So it is using a medical facility with people other than a doctor that makes it wrong?
    The outcome is the same, killing the fetus

    I am truly not trying to be snarky. I am trying to understand. To me an abortion is an abortion just like one can't be a "little pregnant"
     
  25. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    It's not a fetus at this stage. I'm more of a "heartbeat" person myself. I'm also a big believer in what you do in your own home is your own business.
     
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  26. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Hearing that many urologists are reporting a surge in men wanting a vasectomy in the wake of Roe v Wade's overturn.

    I am trying to follow the logic and morality (if any) of the men who come to such a decision.

    Why would one do that? Are there really that many men who never want to have children? Are they maybe banking on vasectomy reversal being easily obtained if they change their minds? Are they thinking the local skanks are more likely to spread wide if they know the dude can't knock them up? Are they so stupid as to believe an abortion will be impossible to obtain?

    Anybody here able to help with the motivation of these guys?
     
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  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Garm
    Ok I understand.
    And I think I agree.
    Thanks
     
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  28. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    It's a human being with its own unique, never before seen, and never to be repeated set of DNA at the moment of conception.

    You're either willing to kill it, or you're not.

    You can rationalize why (it's not a "fetus" yet, etc), you can sloganeer (my body, my choice, but ummmm, that thing being removed wasn't YOUR body - it was its own entity), and to be perfectly honest, you can follow the law of the land and legally obtain an abortion if you want. But what you cannot do is avoid knowing that you had a part in killing another innocent and completely vulnerable human.
     
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  29. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Let me ask you something. Are you ready to go after doctors and patients to put them in jail over this? I'm not.
     
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  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    No, I am not intending to go after doctors and patients either.

    All I am saying is, legal or not, one can't avoid knowing that the action lead to the death of an innocent human being. I fervently hope all people thinking about abortion, from providers to pregnant women and their families/boyfriends/babydaddys/spermdonors contemplate the reality of what they are about to do before making the decision one way or the other.
     

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