Sam’s Horn legacy?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by SAMMCHornfan, Oct 10, 2020.

  1. SAMMCHornfan

    SAMMCHornfan 250+ Posts

    What will it be? He is definitely all over the record books. He did well in bowl games. Does it mainly come down to Wins and losses? Where do you put him on the list of all time great UT QBs? I don’t think he fulfilled his destiny. I know the losses aren’t totally on him, but they still go on his record. So, with that said, and unless the horns can pull off some sort of a miracle and win the rest of their games, I would put him just behind Major, IMHO. I will probably get bashed for that one though.
     
  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    There is no freaking legacy. He's a good QB with ****** coaching. He hasn't won jack squat. Yes, they won Bowl games against apathetic opponents but no conference titles. So what?
     
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  3. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    He will be remembered as a QB who got to live his boyhood dream and set school records in the process.
     
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  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Love ya, man, but seriously, who cares? He led no Texas team to any meaningful win and will be a nothing burger in the Heisma talk as an extremely experienced senior.
     
  5. FWHORN

    FWHORN 10,000+ Posts

    He is one of the toughest kids I have seen in all my years of watching Texas football but in the pantheon of Texas quarterbacks he isn’t even top 5. Good with moments of greatness but way too many moments of average to mediocre.
     
  6. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    0-4 vs OU and no championships. His career numbers are big because he's a 4 year starter. I love Sam's heart and commitment to the Longhorn nation but I think he's just a good qb on a crappy coached team.

    Who knows if he had real college coaching if he could have won a Heisman. Possibly.
     
  7. FWHORN

    FWHORN 10,000+ Posts

    1-4 against OU not 0-4
     
  8. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    oh yeah, you're right.
     
  9. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Not saying winning didn't matter, but a lot of people get personal satisfaction in living a dream. He could have moved on if he had wanted.
     
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  10. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    And, I have a childhood friend who has a son with special needs. Sam was part of a group of players who went to visit him and some other kids in a hospital last year. I commented what a great guy Sam is. So, before anyone flames me, this thread is about his legacy as a Texas QB, not a person. Great person. Average QB.
     
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  11. KBBAKER

    KBBAKER 500+ Posts

    Just like Tony Romo. Great guy. Great teammate. Tons of hollow stats. No championships.
     
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  12. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Sam's Horn legacy is he just got beat as a senior by a freshman.
     
  13. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Sam had moxy and some nice moments, but not much else.
     
  14. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Uh, isn’t it 1-3 ? His OU record I mean.
     
  15. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    HIC, Sam has left it all on the field with an offensive line that really doesn't offer much protection. Regardless, Sam toughs it out and leads the team the entire game. With you, not like Applewhite/Simms/Vince/McCoy, but someone who doesn't have the luxury of the greatest talent around him yet finds ways to keep coming back and playing until the clock is at zero.
     
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  16. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    His legacy is wins and championships. That's all anyone will care about later on. I am not saying he doesn't love Texas and doesn't play hard. His craptastic coaches and supporting teammates have ruined his legacy.
     
  17. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Bigger, stronger Major. Zero championships.

    Vince
    Street
    Colt
    James Brown (two championships)
    Sam
    Major
    Sims
    Martin Cherry the Gambler!
     
  18. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    Alabama won a national championship with a nothing qb from Southlake Carroll against Texas in 2009. No one thinks he took over the game and won it. Trent Dilfer says hello.
     
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  19. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Again, I'm not impugning Ehlinger as a talented QB and loyal Longhorn. I'm just discussing his legacy, which is what the thread is about. With crappy coaching and players around him, besides saying he played hard and lives Texas, his "legacy" will not mean much. Think of it this way. Will his legacy build and create a winning program? Doubtful.
     
  20. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    Sam’s legacy was that he was better than Colt but had a bad coach..
     
  21. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Going to have to disagree here. I think Colt, hands down, is better than Sam. Accuracy to football acumen, you name it. Maybe not brute force running into defenders, but that's about it.
     
  22. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Lost in the conference championship against OU. 1-4.
     
  23. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Yep. And Gardere was 4-0 against OU.

    Sam > Gardere.
     
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  24. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Colts completion percentage was the ncaa record till the LSU guy broke it last year. He could make any throw on the field, plus run. Total college football qb package.
     
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  25. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Incomplete Pete? Yes, Sam is better than IP.
     
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  26. txhorn_et

    txhorn_et 1,000+ Posts

    Better than average QB with a terrible offensive line and coaching. Too many offensive coordinators in his time at Texas.
     
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  27. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    He couldn’t make every throw.
     
  28. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Which ones couldn’t he make?
     
  29. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    Eric Metcalf

    Jaxon Shipley

    D'Onta Foreman
     
  30. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    You all are missing an important part of the legacy, which is “Longhorn-ness.” Just like Major Applewhite was for many years, Sam will be beloved around here. He will be more Don Meredith than Tony Romo. Probably will be on LHN if he wants, unless he’s off to make bigger money in business.
     
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