SEC move timeline

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Badass, Feb 25, 2022.

  1. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Every time I drive crawl through "town" on 183 or I-35 my distaste for modern day Austin increases.

    EDIT: It is no different than my distaste for LA, Houston, Dallas, SF, or any of the nasty population boils in the NE USA.
     
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  2. MajorRules00

    MajorRules00 500+ Posts

    Were you on Coach Herman's recruiting staff?
     
  3. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Nope. And I think UT has a hell of a lot to offer to attract top recruits. I just hopped off the Austin bandwagon long ago. If I was recruiting, I wouldn't make Austin's Austintatiousness any part of my pitch.
     
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  4. Bayerithe

    Bayerithe 1,000+ Posts

    austin is basically San Francisco lite, with worse traffic. it was fun in the early 2000's, but hard pass nowadays. maybe that's just me becoming older :idk:
     
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  5. Gladius&Pilum

    Gladius&Pilum 100+ Posts

    Not a case of recruits disliking Austin. It's that the city/town where a school is located is WAY down on most recruits' priority list.
     
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  6. MajorRules00

    MajorRules00 500+ Posts

    I'd say the same thing if my school was in College Station.
     
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  7. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    My "executive ranch" is 5 miles south of the loop around Taylor. My 35 minute drive to work in Austin is now 55 minutes to 1:10 depending on the day. I've lived out here for 20 years and now that Samsung is building their mega factory about 7 miles due west of me the property values are skyrocketing. A friend right next to the samsung property sold out at $85k an acre. INSANE. Sounds great on paper until tax time comes. If I sell where am I gonna move and not have to change jobs. I sound like a whiny baby, but why cant these people just stay away. They are ruining my small town.
     
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  8. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I got excited a couple of years ago when a local realtor said they thought my house would sell for $300k. Last week the same realtor said it would easily fetch $500-600K with zero repairs and zero concessions on my part.

    Damn that is tempting, but like you said, where would I move? To be honest, I am a South Texas native, and properties a hundred miles or so outside SA are still very reasonable. However, getting Mrs. Sangre to pull up stakes would be the real challenge. This is the house where we raised all the kids, and where she wants to help with the eventual grandkids. I don't think stupid money from California is going to sway her.
     
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  9. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    I'm having the same problem. My wife doesn't really want to move out of the central Texas area but land prices everywhere are ridiculous. Building a new house is going to be significantly more expensive too but the longer I wait the more it's going to cost.
     
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  10. MajorRules00

    MajorRules00 500+ Posts

    To everyone expressing concerns about land,
    Even those whom I disagree with, remember that
    X-mas comes every year, and this year
    I am wishing for a return to greatness for
    Texas Longhorns football....and a date for our SEC jump!
     
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  11. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    I moved to Austin in ‘69 and told my landlady I thought I was in heaven or at least Athens Greece. She told me I should have been there in the 50s when it wasn’t so crowded and the traffic so bad

    every generation has its own Austin
     
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  12. Gladius&Pilum

    Gladius&Pilum 100+ Posts

    I say it because UT is in Austin but somehow fails to out-recruit schools in backwater towns like Tuscaloosa, Norman, and Baton Rouge. If the locale was that big of a deal to recruits USC, Miami, and Washington would dominate recruiting. Hell, Austin is 10X better than Columbus, Ohio but OSU cherry picks kids at their leisure.
     
  13. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    They "heyday" of location recruiting died when Miami stopped being good.

    Basically any benefit you can find in a big city is also now available in places like College Station and Stillwater.
     
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  14. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 2,500+ Posts

    I was three years old when my parents moved to Austin.
    IH 35 did not exist yet.
    Graduated from Reagan High in 1973.
    I remember when Austin population signs listed just over 400,000.
    For as long as I can remember people have been bitching about Austin growth.
    In the 70s unfracture bills were defeated because "if we don't build it, they won't come".
    Austin will always be at least a decade behind on infrastructure because nobody planned for the inevitable growth.
    And it's still growing.
    I've seen estimates of 5 million people by 2050.
    I enjoyed the Armadillo years and Keeping Austin Weird.
    It's different now but still weird and cool for the youngsters.
     
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  15. William Bush

    William Bush 25+ Posts

    Austin stopped being a "town" in the 70"s. It's the 11th largest metropolitan area in the U.S. Out of control construction, traffic from Hell. Not exactly the safest place to be walking around at night. I miss the old Austin, but it ain't coming back.
     
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  16. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    10th, not 11th, from the data I saw recently. We left San Jose in our dust recently.
     
  17. MajorRules00

    MajorRules00 500+ Posts

    I've yet to see anyone provide evidence that location does not matter to college kids. Instead, lots of old codger gripes about property taxes, traffic, and population increase. None of which mean jack squat to recruits.

    Consider: During some of UT's most boring, non-productive football years, (2016-2020) they averaged in the top 10 of recruiting.

    Texas has Top 10 recruiting class averages over the past five years

    When the view is expanded to 2010-2019 (perhaps the worst stretch of football in UT history), Texas' recruiting haul is even better (#4 overall).

    10 best recruiting schools since 2010: Who follows Alabama? | Sporting News

    I enjoy pasture parties as much as the next guy. And the slower pace of life is quite attractive. To me. But it's ridiculous to suggest that most kids prefer College Station to Austin. Or Norman to Los Angeles. Not only is there zero data to support that, but it flies in the face of human nature itself.

    Have some of you forgotten what it's like to be young? Has the "real world" gotten you so calloused that you can no longer see outside of yourself? If so, it's time to change your Depends and pop a fresh Ensure! There's a whole wide world out there.
     
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  18. Gladius&Pilum

    Gladius&Pilum 100+ Posts

    1. I didn't say locale doesn't matter, I said it's not near the top of the priority list for recruits.

    2. UT has recruited well in spite of its on-field performance. If you want to believe that's because of Austin instead of UT itself... odd flex but you do you.

    3. I never said anyone prefers BCS to ATX. Moreover, it speaks directly to my point that locale is rarely a deciding factor in recruiting. If locale was that important only schools in "cool cities" like ATX, LA, Seattle, Portland, Miami, etc. would be able to land the big-name recruits. But that's not the case.

    My point is that many UT fans place way more weight on the allure of ATX than exists for most recruits. The recruiting success in schools like Bama, LSU, and Norman tells us there are more important things in recruits' minds than the city in which a school is located.
     
  19. MajorRules00

    MajorRules00 500+ Posts

     
  20. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    This was interesting.

    @Sangre Naranjada @Vol Horn 4 Life You could get some nice property north of the red river. Come on!

    Recruits don't care about the town/city.
     
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  21. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Bubba,

    A quote from my grandmother when the BIA offered her a free new 2000 sq ft brick home. "Where will you build it?" When told it had to be in Oklahoma, her response, "I spent my first 20 years trying to get out of there, not even if you give me the governor's mansion".
     
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  22. Gladius&Pilum

    Gladius&Pilum 100+ Posts

    Can your grandmother play OT? Asking for Flood.
     
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  23. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    No, but her brother and father were the biggest bootleggers in the McAlester area. She never saw a football game in her life. If my great, great grandfather was still alive, that's a different story - 6'6"/250 and meaner than a rattlesnake.
     
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  24. n64ra

    n64ra 1,000+ Posts

    If you're from Ohio, a) you poor bastard and b) Columbus is viewed as the party town.
     
  25. Gladius&Pilum

    Gladius&Pilum 100+ Posts

    Tell ya what... if living in ATX is the main reason a recruit picks UT then Bellmont is in big trouble.

    Perhaps success on the gridiron isn't that big a deal to someone finally living their dream of being in Austin.

    Maybe Austin helps UT recruit the wrong kind of player now. Kinda seems like that's what the Ojomo kid was saying.
     
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  26. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I think there's a certain level of entitlement in the athletic department in Austin. I am really interested to see the development on 18-21 year old offensive linemen getting that kind of $ as part of the pancake factory. I think it will be more of a motivator to DL that they face.
     
  27. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Austin isn't the Austin anyone over 40 remembers, but living in Austin still beats living in Dallas, Houston, collie station, Lubbock or Waco. Ft. Worth isn't any better than Dallas (not much there except Sundance Square and the Zoo).
     
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  28. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 2,500+ Posts

  29. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    It's basically up to ESPN at this point. CBS contract is done as of the end of 2023. If ESPN secures 2024-203x within the year, part of the deal could just be swallowing LHN and securing the $$$ difference (1/14th minus 1/16th of the pot) for the other member schools to have us in for 2023. Probably beef up the SEC Network too.

    It's kind of awesome thinking back to 2010 and A&M blaming LHN for screwing them... and now LHN's demise is going to screw them too. Can't get enough Aggie schadenfreude.
     
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  30. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Grew up in Ft Worth, couldn't wait to get out after college. Always loved Austin. Post college, spent most of my biz career in or around Dallas suburbs. Lived in McKinney the last 25 years....

    Now FWIW, unless I could afford to live "comfortably" in the Hill Country, I'd live in Ft. Worth area again..... Austin or suburbs- hell no!
     
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