OK, so had a day or so to digest what happened in Florida, and my suspicion is that since there's no thread on this, it's probably because we're all sick of the same argument that essentially accomplishes nothing. So in thinking about some of the things I've heard, I've been trying to think about any actual "solutions" - or at least actions that could be taken which might be of some benefit. The first thing that's really been driven home for me is that the phrase "gun control" in itself has become a meaningless cliche. You're either for "common sense gun control measures" or you're not. I haven't heard a lot of people in the past two days articulating what exactly those common sense measures are, other than background checks, closing gun show "loophole," and the ubiquitous "assault rifle ban. All of these have been pretty well hashed to death and for one reason or another some people consider them "common sense" and some people consider them empty or sometimes redundant gestures. So what are we left with? Gun confiscation wouldn't work even if it were constitutional. It would rely on voluntary action, which obviously means that the dangerous actors are still going to have guns and will probably be able to access guns. We can talk about mental health and family stability, but that's not going to get fixed next week, or even next year - assuming this society would ever do what is required to fix those things. So do we simply accept our reality that there are dangerous people with access to weapons, and that schools are easy targets? Do we acknowledge that the profile for these issues continues to be the same time after time, and in many cases the acts have been committed by young men who were by all accounts ticking time bombs with emotional and mental issues? Some suggestions I've heard: Arming teachers: I don't think this makes sense. I get the idea, but they're in school to teach and should be able to focus on that. Combat training shouldn't be a part of teacher requirements, and if it's not, then I don't want them carrying weapons anyway. In addition, the security of having a gun would require the teacher to carry it at all times, which means teachers with gun holsters. No one's going to be OK with that, but the alternative of having a firearm in the desk or in a purse or a closet is simply not acceptable. Armed security: To me this is becoming a no-brainer. At some point we have to stop treating kids like snowflakes. They all know what's happening in schools. They all understand the concept of school shootings. The presence of four or five armed officers on campus isn't going to be any more traumatic than reading about these things happening at other schools every three or four months - God forbid witnessing it first hand. Federal task force: No one has been talking about this seriously but I think it's time. The FBI response in this past case made it very clear that there's no urgency or understanding of what to do with "early warning" threats about potential shooters. This kid had police coming to his house at the request of his mother to "try and talk sense into him." He was posting inflammatory messages on Facebook. He posted a comment on YouTube about being a professional shooter, which was reported to the FBI, and at this point nothing appears to have been done about any of this. I suspect it's because there's no protocol, and no willingness to either remove someone from society or at least heavily monitor that person when they show themselves to be a likely threat. I think it's worth discussing to have either state level or federal level agents whose responsibility it is to monitor, track and engage in potential shooter situations. I get that there are a LOT of civil liberties issues that need to be addressed in order to make that work, but at the same time, we have to start looking at this in terms of getting kids help who really need it. Anyway, curious to hear people's thoughts.