Targeting Appeal Denied

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by LonghornCatholic, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Makes one wonder what would have happened if Charles Jefferson had to play under these patty-cake rules...

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  2. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    I suppose you need to approach the "defenseless" QB gingerly, tap him on the shoulder and say, "Hey, I'd like to hit you...better get ready." . .And then let him defend himself by stiff arming, ducking, spinning, or otherwise evading and throwing a completion or running for the first down.
    Some real true crap right there now....of course the guy being tackled needs to be defenseless lest he defend himself by avoiding the tackle.
    What would make him not defenseless in that scenario? The tackler has to approach the tackle in that situation with an assumption that at any moment the QB will react and defend or evade..leading to no tackle....just as we saw with Watts and Bryce in the Bama game. Im quite sure Dem0 was as surprised as anyone including the QB that he was able to come right up the gut in his face and make a head up bear hug mask to mask textbook tackle without an evasive move from the QB. It is EXACTLY what you hope for...and almost never get...in that situation.
    Outstanding play by Dem0 and certainly not one he should be penalized for....doubt seriously that QB would disagree.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 22, 2022
  3. hornde68

    hornde68 100+ Posts

    The week before, against Alabama, the ‘defenseless’ QB escaped a sack and ran 27 yds to set up the game winning FG. Who holds up the ‘defenseless’ sign and where does he/she/it stand?
     
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  4. Gylcomer

    Gylcomer 25+ Posts

    This is yet another example of the soft power that has countered longhorn football since the early seventies. It’s out of our control. Too many to list. The lead dog always gets bit in the ***.
     
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  5. txhorn_et

    txhorn_et 500+ Posts

    No wonder we see so many arm tackles, or lack thereof.
     
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  6. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    wonder why Ewers was not a "defenseless player" when he was planted in the 1st qtr.
     
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  7. TheBeeman

    TheBeeman < 25 Posts

    He might have been “defenseless” but there wasn’t helmet to helmet contact on that tackle (that I remember).

    But he was “planted,” as you say; which, while not “targeting” is a foul in itself.
     
  8. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    There was no helmet to helmet on Overshown and Harris either.

    Besides Turner “planting” Ewers he came down with all his weight on top of Ewers.

    There are several fouls on the same play.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 22, 2022
  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    65
    I agree. That was a chicken chit play.
     
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  10. HalRex

    HalRex 500+ Posts

    NCAA = Farthing Iceholes!
     
  11. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

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  12. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    I mean... I'm a homer too but it's kind of blind to say that there was no helmet to helmet. Facemasks are part of the helmet.



    I don't like it either, but like I said, I'll be surprised if it's called against one of our opponents this year or any other.
     
  13. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    Face mask to face mask isnot a violent collision. That happened in another game I was watching, maybe Penn State v Auburn and was NOT considered targeting by revue by Booth.
     
  14. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Sorry, but that QB was pivoting to run. Had the QB not pivoted, Overshown wouldn't have hit him face to face.

    It's a ******** call.
     
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  15. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 100+ Posts

    You people stay full of piss and vinegar.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 22, 2022
  16. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    How do you run towards something or somewhere without leading with the helmet? The rule violates basic physiology.
     
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  17. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    How come the QB was not penalized for targeting the tackler with a head butt?
     
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  18. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    They explained to Sark that it was in combo with the defenseless player part that he attached in his twitter thread. I don't like how McAulay is explaining it, but I get it.

    We'll never know, and that's why it's a foul. Like McAulay said, plenty of legal hits can happen in that exact situation. Several others have alluded to it on this thread... arm tackling has been more rampant and that's probably a symptom of these rules. It would have needed Overshown to make a decision to take one fewer step and lean into the hit on the chest/ball area instead of the face, which would have taken him a twentieth of a second to realize, which seems unreasonable, and I get it. It just "is."
     
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  19. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    :clap:
     
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  20. HornsUp4Life

    HornsUp4Life < 25 Posts

    I'm all for the targeting rule (when properly applied & ruled on). This was a HORRID call and not to overturn it is even worse. Not worried about hurting ref's feelings--Get the damn call right!!
     
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  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    hic
    :bow:
     
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  22. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    The NCAA is making rules in the name of safety that are wrecking the sport. They should ask NASCAR how that works out.
     
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  23. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I understand the intent of the rule, but it is way too harsh. I’m fine with a “flagrant” call which ends up with the suspension. However, there needs to be an unintentional version which ends up in penalty yards only.
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Good point. Like the 5 yard rushing into punter vs roughing (automatic 1st down).
     
  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I was told, even on intentional grounding, you can't prove intent.
     
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  26. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan 10,000+ Posts

    Didn't read prior posts in this thread, so I apologize in advance if I repeat.

    How many flags would Tommy Nobis get today? He lead with head on face mask tackles.... punishing the player.

    I played Center in HS but my coaches strongly instilled in our D players to tackle direct - head on and up like Nobis did. Again, head UP, not down to avoid neck injuries.

    Our Sr. LB Sherman Lee tackled like that ... earned a scholarship to play for DKR, 1971-1974.

    Not advocating crown of helmet or viscous head hits to vulnerable players...

    But let 'em play play football.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 23, 2022 at 9:22 AM
  27. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 100+ Posts

    Are you saying intent can be proven?

    Flagrant may be a better word choice.
     
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  28. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    My mom always taught me that if you're going to maliciously head-butt someone, never, ever cradle the back of their head.

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  29. 1sahorn

    1sahorn 500+ Posts

    In Sarcastiball that's a very nice hug.
     
  30. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    An absolutely horrible call during the game - and even worse that's it's not overturned.
     
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