Tech gives Beard a new contract - 6 yrs @ $4.6 million

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  1. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    According to Houston TV
  2. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Easy when you cut the football staff pay by hiring a non-Power 5 coaching staff. (Of course, Texas tried that twice with increased the staff pay and it didn't really work the first time around.)
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2019
  3. txlandagent

    txlandagent 500+ Posts

    Poison Pill clause for Texas. There went our shot at Beard.
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  4. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Bigger problem is the gap we're going to have to make up with recruiting. We were already competing with the likes of A&M and LSU when Tech was middling. Now that we're the middling team, we'll have to rely on things like actual scheming and making open shots in order to entice people to come to Austin.
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  5. txlandagent

    txlandagent 500+ Posts

    Add UH back into this fold now. Kelvin Sampson just got a 6 year @ $3.1M with incentives. That aint bad. And Fertitta's going to do anything he can to keep him there, and happy. KS's Coog's are going to be perennial contenders - and will assuredly be vying for all the coach-able 3 stars and upside 4's they can get. They have a top #20 recruiting class for 2020 and the #1 class in AAC.
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  6. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    Doesn't matter anyway. Look what Grand Master SS did with multiple top 10 recruiting classes. As long as he's here I suggest the result will be the same no matter who we get. Herman proved it doesn't matter how bad it gets a good replacement coach will get pretty much who he wants. I agree I think we missed a huge opportunity with Beard, but I also believe he's not the last good coach who would come to Texas.
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  7. lecturer

    lecturer 250+ Posts

    Beard isn't now and was not particularly interested in going UT.
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  8. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    I'm not really interested in a lot of positions which have never been offered to me before. I'm focused on the one I have.
  9. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    we STILL have the argument that 'have you SEEN Lubbock? Have you SEEN Collie Station?'
  10. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    I"m guessing bringing in football, and maybe roundball recruits from, say, California, a number of young studs kind of think Bevo's cool, get to pet him on the forehead as Bevo gets frisky and rocks his head and rack around in response.

    But, LIVING around bovines? I grew up on a farm and fresh cow manure isn't all that bad; but for city boys, living around it may not be so cool.

    So, FIFY:

    "we STILL have the argument that 'have you SMELLED Lubbock? Have you SMELLED Collie Station?'
  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe, but how many of those city kids have had the fun of competing in a cow chip throwing contest, or trying to substitute them for skeet?

  12. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    True dat!

  13. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Lubbock smells like dust. But you are very close on your description of aggyville.
  14. lecturer

    lecturer 250+ Posts

    Lubbock has a population of about 260000 and is the third largest Big 12 city--not nearly as rural as many who like to perpetuate a stereotype would lead others to believe.

    In the last 2 seasons Beard has signed 6 four stars with in all likelihood more to come this semester. The odor must have not been too bad. Completion of the $30 million basketball workout facility as well as an already having a quality arena will provide as good a facilities as there are in the country.

    Beard has lived in Lubbock now 13 years in addition to living in Abilene and San Angelo. His daughters are in West Texas as well as his girlfriend who is a high school head coach. It is considered home.

    Who knows what the future holds, but if he was interested in leaving currently, he'd already be gone. He's already had a number of opportunities.
  15. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Hmmm. I was there last week, and it is a rural city. Not that is bad, but in no way can it be called an urban city (which rules out being a suburb).
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  16. txlandagent

    txlandagent 500+ Posts

    Lubbuttocks smells like pig **** and rendered fat in a lot of places. mmmmm.
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  17. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Only by a technicality (Norman is in the OKC metro area).
  18. lecturer

    lecturer 250+ Posts

    point still remains it's fairly difficult to accurately categorize a city of 260000 that also has a university of 40000 as rural--"In general, a rural area or countryside is a geographic area that is located outside towns and cities."
  19. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    You just defined Lubbock. Drive 5 minutes in any direction and you are out in the country.
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  20. lecturer

    lecturer 250+ Posts

    actually I did not.

    The definition read an area OUTSIDE a town/city. In this case it would be the area OUTSIDE the town of about 300000 you're obviously alluding to as opposed to the town itself.

    You're trying way too hard.
  21. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    So Abernathy and Post are urban centers?

    Lubbock is a country town that is no match for DFW, Houston, Austin or San Antonio.
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  22. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    there is probably no B12 school in a rural area. instead of arguing semantics, i think it's easy to say...big city vs country town and it becomes pretty clear what lubbock is.
  23. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Ok, cutting to the chase.

    I've lived in Austin, leaving just during the big boom of late 80s/early 90s, Houston (a number of times, but most recently 1991-1998), and now San Antonio from 1999 on.

    I've always found curious SA's chest bumping of "we're the 7th biggest city in the U.S."

    Yeah, but in context it's like SA is an island in the middle of a South Texas sea. You leave SA's city limits and the surrounding urbanization drops off REAL quick.

    Not so much with NYC, LA, Chitown, The Big Onion (Houston), etc.

    So I looked at the most recent big city populations and the MSAs (metropolitan statistical areas) containing those cities. Below are the largest MSAs in Texas, and for comparison for this thread the MSAs of Lubbock and OKC:

    MSA | MSA pop | largest city | largest city pop | largest city pop / MSA pop

    DFW | 7,846,293 | Dallas | 1,341,075 | 0.171
    Houston-Woodlands | 7,093,190 | Houston | 2,312,717 | 0.326
    SA-New Braunfels | 2,473,974 | SA | 1,511,946 |0.611
    Austin-RR | 2,115,827 | Austin | 950,715 | 0.449
    Lubbock-Levelland | 341,234 | Lubbock | 253,888 | 0.744
    OKC-Shawnee | 1,455,963 | OKC | 643,648 | 0.442

    It's pretty obvious Dallas and Houston, as large as they are, are surrounded by a very large urban environment, not even individually accounting for even HALF of their respective MSA populations.

    Austin and OKC account for just under one half of their MSA populations,; SA accounts for about 60% of its MSA's population, but Lubbock accounts for almost 75% of the population of it's MSA.

    Said another way, compared to the other MSAs above, Lubbock has very little urban environment around it --- that makes it a city located within a RURAL environment.

    Those am the numbers.
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  24. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Stillwater says hello

    There are more cattle and corn fields between Payne County and OKC than there are people in Oklahoma.
  25. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    maybe. i love that town. it feels like a little college town an hour from the city more than it feels like a rural town. Like Denton. As opposed to San Angelo which is bigger, but it's hours from bigger cities.
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  26. lecturer

    lecturer 250+ Posts

    Abernathy and Post are hardly urban centers. But neither are Wimberely or Liberty Hill for that matter.

    This discussion is getting pretty silly, not to mention boring. As someone mentioned, you're just arguing semantics.

    Never suggested for a moment Lubbock compared DFW, Houston, etc. from an urban standpoint, rather merely a town of 300000 could not accurately be characterized as rural. This because it can't.
  27. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    If that is what you think so be it.
  28. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    This is silly. When I originally said "come to Austin," I didn't mean because of what the city offers beyond the college experience. I meant just commit to us. Charlottesville, VA, is much smaller than Lubbock, but I don't see anyone saying that UVA recruits would be scared away by being in a small city. And last time I checked, recruits still like to commit to places in Spokane, Auburn, Blacksburg, etc.

    To each his own.
  29. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    While true. Some cities look like rural/little towns. Poor outside the school.

    But you mention really beautiful towns.

    So it's not just about size. I agree.
  30. lecturer

    lecturer 250+ Posts

    that's what she said.
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