Texas Abortion Law

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Mr. Deez, Sep 8, 2021.

  1. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    Parental responsibility would be telling the little darlings what happens when they hop into the sack. Parental responsibility would be telling the little darlings that abortion is NOT birth control.

    It would help if the government didn't decide to incentivize people popping out the rug rats...I expect a baby boom in the inner city in the coming months with the monthly check for ikids Biden insisted upon.

    It would ALSO help if we didn't have television networks glorifying teen pregnancies.
     
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  2. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    meanwhile, the left recently incentivized single moms to pop out more kids that won't ever know their father...
     
  3. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    That's how he define viability as the ability to breathe out of the womb. How do you define it?

    Swing and a miss on understanding what rational vs arbitrary is. You unwittingly give a rational distinction. If we can not verify pregnancy at 1-2 days then that can be considered from a human perspective a lack of a pregnancy, right? Now we know theoretically conception is the start of human life but if we can't identify the existence of conception then we can't legislate action against the conceived person.

    However, if a human can identify human life in the womb via a discernible heart beat, that is the very definition of a scientific, observable identification of life. That's very rational. Using a word, "viable", to distinguish between life and nonlife is irrational and arbitrary because the definition can be changed to mean whatever a person wants it to mean. Plus, the very fact that "viable" doesn't equate to human life or baby, etc. It is a qualitative description of a human life not a definition of when life begins.

    What Deez showed is that the law is flawed. It allows for actions that can reasonably be considered unjust in relation people bringing and being liable to lawsuits. Those parts should be modified or eliminated for the reasons Deez mentions.
     
  4. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Hmmmm, had to think on that one.
     
  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I wasn't disagreeing with you per se. Just pointing out an inconsistency in our current societal definitions.
     
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  6. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    ****. I agree with you a little. I need to log off and go talk to someone.

    That said, first paragraph....people under the age of 25 often make REAL stupid decisions "in the heat of the moment".
     
  7. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    These mandatory vaccines got me a thinking....One way to avoid a lot of abortions is to have a mandatory IQ test. If you fail it then you get sterilized. Harsh but effective. But isn't killing the living unborn worse. Using abortions as birth control is moronic.
     
  8. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    If the only options were those two, then yes forced sterilization is better. I would amend your proposal. If you can’t take care of your child, it goes to adoption and you are sterilized.
     
  9. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I developed a super hero a few years ago when my 18 year old was about 8 going to a rural elementary school outside of Tahlequah. I saw a pregnant mom pushing a double stroller with a kid or two following. Heroes was or had been a show that was on at the time. I wanted to get trained to put in the little birth control things under women's arms. Then, I was going to need to learn how to stop time like Hiro did on that show. I might have been dreaming. Too bad there's not a pill we could give to males.
     
  10. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    How do you know those babies were unplanned?
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    We've got rubbers instead. Gross and a pain in the ***.
     
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  12. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Just doin' the Cherokee County math. Argumentative today.
     
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  13. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    The liberal way, define irresponsibility as "inability to control urges" and that's a good excuse for murder. Excuses, blame anyone but yourself, no accountability and irresponsibility, definitely the liberal way. After all, you have to have reasons for your selfish behavior so why not redefine anything you don't like?

    It's interesting, in the business world, the people most likely to violate company safety or quality policy and cause a major industrial situation, and also blame anyone, everyone but themselves are most likely to be? You guessed it.
     
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  14. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    In Oklahoma we call them Trump voters.
     
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  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    This thread is demonstrative of the absolute worst of West Mall. Throwing epithets like "killer", "murderer" for having a different perspective, one that is very commonly shared by >50% of the country is a bit much. Yes, I'm pointing the finger at you @Monahorns.

    Some of y'all need to take a step back and learn how to have a respectful conversation with those you disagree. Yes, I'm guilty of throwing back **** when I receive it but the recent rancor seems to be hitting a fever pitch. A reader can FEEL the hate coming through in your posts.
     
  16. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    How many women become fertile immediately after menstruation? NONE.
     
  17. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Semantics.

    If a woman is tracking her cycle, and it's supposed to be every four weeks, then six weeks is two weeks after she should have menstruated. To say "right after" meant as soon as it could happen. But the count between periods starts regardless.
     
  18. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    They count day 1 of pregnancy on day 14 after the last period.
     
  19. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I draw the line at creation of a unique genetic code via the fusion of sperm and egg.
     
  20. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Fair enough. I don't know if AOC was making that point or not. I doubt she was.
     
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  21. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    I'm not sure where they were intended to be inserted...or at least not for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.
     
  22. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    There is a post-conviction proceeding related to civil commitment of sexual predators. One of the primary questions posed to the jury is whether the individual is a threat to the community by virtue of the inability to control sexual urges.

    Seems to me that some of the libtiles support sexually predatory behaviors. Humans are SUPPOSED to have an ability to curb the urge and not act upon it...
     
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  23. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    One might say satanic, but then you’d have to believe it is murder and what I just don’t get is, some don’t.
     
  24. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    I guess it's nice to see that you define "ejaculating inside of a woman" as predatory. I think a lot of women agree.
     
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  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I friggin hate them. And they're a mood killer. "Hey Baby, give me a minute while I roll this slimy, nasty-*** balloon thing on my junk." Yeah, that's a big turn-on for the ladies.

    It's just another big advantage you lesbians have over us. You don't have to mess with that crap.
     
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  26. mb227

    mb227 5,000+ Posts

    When people trot out the 'heat of the moment' crap, it moves into the 'inability to control sexual urges' category.
     
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  27. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    It's not their fault. There should be no consequences, so go ahead and rip out the baby.
     
  28. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Guilty. I have an 18 year old that I take the blame for the procrastination of scheduling said procedure. She gets the blame for the heat of the moment. I called it in the heat of the moment. So yeah, we’re human.
     
  29. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    I agree with Deez. This is problematic, in that as stated, the busybody appears allowed to bring a case in which they not only have no standing, but also no liability if they lose.
     
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  30. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad OSU Game Prediction Champion

    This all day.
     

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