The 2021 Football season

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Joe Fan, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    You beat me to this fact.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It would be nice to have an above-average center for awhile
    Not sure how far back we have to go to find one
     
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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Three 2020 opt-outs have returned
    Jack OLB Marqez Bimage
    RB Daniel Young
    WR Dajon Harriso
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    The first two are confirmed and I think Harrison is back too
     
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  4. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    I still wish someone could explain to me the logic of opting out when the season doesn't count against you regardless?
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    One of them has or had a compromised family member and was worried about that. One was just looking at the depth chart alone. Cant rmbr the other.
     
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  6. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Im w you. Most of the great teams have one. Tampa center looked to me like he deserved a piece of Tom's Super Bowl MVP trophy.
     
  7. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    "compromised family member"

    ...could mean alot of things these days, Joe
     
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  8. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 2,500+ Posts

    Well, my daughter is "compromised" with an immune deficiency so, not really laughing about it.
     
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  9. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Nobody's laughing at stuff like that, Moon.
    I was laughing at all the possible other applications of that phrase given the times (and ...I thought obvious... in an apposite/coincidental sense, though I could see someone "taking it wrong")
    I almost didn't put the lol but wanted to communicate to Joe clearly what I was getting at...and I am quite sure he generally understood.
    I'll remove the lol for anyone who may misunderstand
    :hookem:
     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  11. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Great ^^^
     
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  12. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I’m thinking Sark knows the importance of a dominant 0-Line.
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  14. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Texas

    ^ Translation please
     
  15. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 250+ Posts

    You left off the most important comparison.

    GDGD vs Sark - offensive coaching is worth extra win or 2 right there. I would pretty much say your assessment is spot on from a 20/20 hind site but Don't sleep on our Dline or the depth we have at WR, I think we have a lot of guys and they are going to be fighting for playing time, it is going to bring out the best in some of them. As for our Dline, I remember with fond memories how great Shaun Rogers and Casey Hampton developed into, but they were sophomores in Mack's first year. Alfred Collins might be more talented than both of them, add in the depth we have with Broughton, Ojomo, Sweat, and Coburn and we are 3 deep with high quality NLF DTs.

    Our Linebackers are much much better than what we had with Mack's first year, it would take a few years to any good linebackers at Texas.

    Kerrstettler is going to be limited by his injury, I don't see him making a comeback until maybe the 2nd half of the year. Leg injuries are not east for big men to come back from. He is carrying an extra 100 lbs of weight he has to compensate for.

    Connor is really slow and needs to be in the weight room for a year. However he is also really really smart, do be surprised if his best position is center where I think he could be an all conference level player in a couple of years.

    I think he is saying he got a fresh start with the new staff and a legit chance to show his stuff. Keep in mind with 15 scholarship receivers we are probably going to have 3 to 5 of them transfer, who will those guys be? Right now everybody is equal, until they are not equal. He has a chance to be one of the guys, I think he will be.

    IMO our top 10 WRs
    1. Joshua Moore
    2. Jordan Whittington
    3. Jake Smith
    4. Troy Omeire
    5. Kelvontay Dixon
    6. Al'Vonte Woodard
    7. Marcus Washington
    8. Brenden Schooler
    9. Kai Money
    10. Kennedy Lewis

    To be very honest, outside of the top 4 on this list, all the guys we are recruiting for the 2022 class are better than everyone on this list.
     
  16. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    I enjoy most of your posts, Sheldon, and appreciate your perspective (here^^^included), but you lost me with that last paragraph.
    For one, it is impossible to know to what degree old staff/coaching bias/system was impacting a current player...nor how an incoming player will be helped or hindered by those same variables. More importantly, we've seen too many hyped up guys from high school not pan out in CFB, so there are no guarantees on any of our incoming would-be studs. Some guys past #4 on this list weren't exactly chopped liver as recruits before they got here. I don't see the benefit of running down a guy who wears our uni for one who hasn't played a down.
    Furthermore, I think you are making a mistake on 2 or 3 of those guys past your #4 cutoff...starting with Dixon for one.
    I can see a couple more rising up from that group.....MW, AW, etc....or not....
    Your comments may very well end up proving prescient, but I would save that kind of chatter for a fan board or something....
    :yes:
     
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  17. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 250+ Posts

    From a pure talent stand point all the guys we have committed and the ones we are currently recruiting are just on a whole other level. Just looking at it from a speed persepective we are recruiting 2 guys who are running sub 10.4 hundred meters. The two guys we have committed are also really really fast. The other part of this is that Sark has a specific trait he looks for in receivers all you have to do is look at the guys who are recently drafted into the NFL.

    I'm pretty confident that that if we land the guys we are trending with all 4 of them will be hands down more talented than the majority of our current receivers. This doesn't mean they will automatically displace our guys on the roster, because there is something to be said for maturity, but I think Sark's offense is going to better purr when he has those speed guys on the field.
     
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  18. yelladawgdem

    yelladawgdem 2,500+ Posts

    Regarding Mackovic to Mack; the morning of the Football Banquet in 1998 (after the Heisman Ceremony and before Cotton Bowl), I had a brief encounter with Mack. I told him how much I admired that on more than one occasion that when praise was being given to him for Ricky's great season, I had heard him mention that it was Coach Mackovic who brought RW to Austin. (Although he had gotten him to STAY)!

    Mack smiled and said, "the cupboard wasn't bare". Never knew if he was aware of how bare the cupboard was when JM took over.

    :cowrose::texasflag:
     
  19. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    It definitely wasn't. Mackovic recruited well at some positions, but left others bare. Inconsistent, and was also a jerk. McWilliams was a good guy, and probably a pretty good coach, but he had the personality of a dead fish, thus the recruiting results. Plus he had to recruit against some serious cheating elsewhere.
     
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  20. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Agree with this RP except you slighted jerks everywhere by associating them with Macovic.
     
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  21. BornOrange0855

    BornOrange0855 100+ Posts

    If NLF means something, please educate me. Otherwise I'm assuming it was a typo and you meant NFL??
    In any case, I hope your assessment is correct. I've been of the opinion for years that one of our biggest weaknesses was at DT. We weren't good at stuffing the run up the middle, and weren't good at pushing the pocket back into the QBs face. Good DTs make the secondary look like All-pros. I remember when we had guys like McMichael, Shearer, English, Simms, Rogers, Hampton, even Diron Talbert and Scott Appleton (yeah, I been around awhile). Those guys made us great. Here's hoping the kids on the current roster measure up.
    Like just about everyone here, I'm glad Herman was shown the door. And I'm optimistic about Sark. But we have question marks for the upcoming season. Here's hoping. Ten years in the wilderness is long enough.
     
  22. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    Nobody mentions Imade. A huge kid who always gives positive responses to questions (at least the ones I have seen). I am really pulling for him and hope he can become the bulldozer that his natural size suggests he could be. Would be awesome to see a kid like him take advantage of the coaching change and become an NFL prospect.
     
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  23. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    This^^^^^ Xs infinity
     
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  24. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    I don't disagree with this^^^^
    And the guys on their way may very well be more talented, but I dont think we've seen "their best" from most of our current roster guys....and it wont be a good/fair comparison until we see them in what we all expect to be a better system with better leadership.
    Good post ...and I do get your drift. Looking forward to seeing it manifest on the field.
    :hookem:
     
  25. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 250+ Posts

    I definitely think we will see some really good stuff from our current receivers as I think Sark's system will unleash their talent and maximize it. I'm of the opinion that a guy like Duv would have been just as successful and productive as Devonta Smith was at Bama.

    Going into next year I expect to see a lot more explosive plays from guys like Jake Smith Jordan Whittington, and Josh Moore.
     
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  26. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    GD wasn't the cause of our losses to UCLA, KSU, or Tech in 1998. If anything, allowing Ricky to run free and feeding into our strengths by protecting Major at QB made his job pretty easy. I don't see Sark as a guy who would take the 1998 team and do any better a job than GD did.

    WR - the game is different now, and I don't see any of our current guys putting themselves in position to be a Wane or Kwame. We lack leadership (and stats) at the position, and unless Omeire becomes "the guy," I don't see how our depth makes the current unit better than what Mack had.

    There is zero chance that Collins is better than Hampton and Rogers, who combined for 8 pro bowls. Hampton was a third-year player who came back strong from his season-ending injury, and Mack knew exactly what he was getting with him based on his 1996 play. Rogers was a beast of a physical specimen who had played a ton more than Collins did in 2020. I'll also take up your prop bet that Broughton, Ojomo, Sweat, and Coburn are all NFL DTs. My guess is that one of them is. Another one might make a practice squad. Our entire line from 1998 was NFL-worthy, even Hump (who got stuck in XFL and NFL Europe because of his antics). It also doesn't look like Sanders is going to stay on the DL either.

    As for LB, I'm not sure what you're basing the "much much better" on. Our LBs played very well in 1998, position changes and all. Hicks basically won the NU game for us. Babino was the bowl game MVP. We have Overshown who is a physical freak now, but what beyond that? Is Mitchell going to play better? Who is going to stand out from the group of Gbenda, Tillman, Ford? Surely not the former walk-on guys.
     
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  27. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

     
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  28. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Free vaccine shot with admission!
     
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  29. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 250+ Posts

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    Hampton was a true Sophomore in 98. He was the only bright spot on the 97 defense. That defense was dog crap warmed over, it was the result of many years of neglect by Machovic. There is a big reason why we gave up over 100 pts to UCLA in just two games.

    As for Collins, he was called by Chris Ash the most talented dlinemen he had coached, and that included the Bosa brothers. Only time will tell on the others but I'm confident in my prediction.
     
  30. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    I'm sorry Sheldon, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. Casey Hampton was the 2nd best DT in UT history, right behind Heisman finalist Kenneth Sims. Shaun Rogers was right behind that. At DE there was Aaron Humphrey and Cedric Woodard, 2 of the better DE's ever. I know they both played in the NFL.

    At LB there was Sr. LB Dusty Renfro who wad damn good against the run, maybe a bit weak against the pass. But there was also DD Lewis, one of the better LB's in UT history and Aaron Bobino, very good also.

    At DB the was Quentin Jammer, certainly one of the best in UT history. Lee Jackson, Ahmad Brooks, Joe Walker and Tony Holmes. Maybe Holmes and Walker were average, but Jackson and Brooks received many accolades.

    I don't think there's more than 3 current players that would start on that 98 defense. And that 98 offense was loaded, that's one thing Mackovic could do, recruit offense.
     
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