The coming depopulation crisis

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Laphroaig10, Mar 26, 2009.

  1. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    More from the "we're ******" department.


     
  2. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

    With a world population of 6.7 billion, I fail to see how this could be viewed as a bad thing. The real question should be what is the sensible number of people on the planet not how to multiply like bacteria in a petri dish until we all die in our excrement.
     
  3. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    Hardly a bad thing. This needs to happen. Maybe we could all live sustainably instead of depending on rampant growth and depletion of all resources to survive.
     
  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Warren Buffet is likely celebrating this news. I tend to agree with him. On the other hand, America needs more immigration to up the volume of SocSec tax payers.
     
  5. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts

    Malthus is dead, guys.
     
  6. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

    The real question is whether he was right.
     
  7. DeadHorse

    DeadHorse 1,000+ Posts

    Immigration will save America, much to the dismay of the Right.

    If not, only the Octomom can save us now.
     
  8. general35

    general35 5,000+ Posts

    Immigration will save America, much to the dismay of the Right.
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    legal immigration will help, its the illegals in far superior numbers that are costing us billions every year.
     
  9. DeadHorse

    DeadHorse 1,000+ Posts


     
  10. MaduroUTMB

    MaduroUTMB 2,500+ Posts

    Modern farming depends upon three things: oil, phosphorus and fresh water. If you have enough oil you can actually replace the other two with it (i.e. the Gulf states burn twice as much oil as anyone else because they run giant desalination plants). Malthus's assumptions about agricultural productivity were proven wrong because we used oil, rock phosphorus/bat guano and dams/aquifers to drastically increase the amount of food that you can pull out of an acre. Oil and easy access to phosphorus will be gone in 150 years and fresh water will have difficulty meeting any more needs than it currently does (even as its ability to do so depends on oil).

    Modern civilization is very similar to a kid with training wheels- he thinks he can ride, but he has no idea how things work with two wheels rather than 4.
     
  11. mcbrett

    mcbrett 2,500+ Posts

    Laph- or anyone else, I read the link, but am a bit shocked to read this as its the first time I've heard of this. Has anyone here read (link needed) anything similar to this?

    As an energy investor I study resource depletion- including water. Having a natural reduction in population would be wonderful for a million reasons, and you wouldn't upset those concerned with birth control/abortion issues.

    One interesting phenomenon, our stock markets, based primarily off of large cap firms, have a growth model that typically has seen 5-8% returns. Much of this is dependent on a rising population. If populations stay steady or decrease, bonds, not stocks may be the way to go. And I agree with another poster, only legal immigration is good for this country.
     
  12. Hornin Hong Kong

    Hornin Hong Kong 1,000+ Posts


     
  13. slobhorn

    slobhorn 25+ Posts


     
  14. mcbrett

    mcbrett 2,500+ Posts

    Agreed- just because the planet in theory can support say 15 billion people doesn't mean its a world you want to live in. When I drive to Big Bend National Park, I don't want to see a Wal Mart and Barnes & Noble nearby.

    Just because we've evolved so much doesn't mean some of us don't have a need for unspoiled land- the way it was meant to be. When you're in Europe you get a sense that their population doesn't grow not just because of demographics- but also because they have decided through government policy to keep their countries as is with no more additional sprawl. It seems like every piece of ground in Europe has been set aside as farm land, national park, or high density living. Even their smallest cities have 4 story residential housing with retail on the first floor.

    Land is such a precious commodity- and I'd be thrilled if the population boom were to end in our lifetimes.
     
  15. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts


     
  16. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts


     
  17. jameson_bond

    jameson_bond 500+ Posts


     
  18. Octavian

    Octavian 100+ Posts

    What we need to do is invade Canada -- they'd be caught completely offguard
     
  19. zzzz

    zzzz 2,500+ Posts


     
  20. Bluepies

    Bluepies Guest

    If the world population started declining TOMORROW, I would freaking jump for joy.

    2040 is too far off. The world is already overpopulated. I fail to see how less procreation is a bad thing.
     
  21. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts


     
  22. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts


     
  23. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts


     
  24. DeadHorse

    DeadHorse 1,000+ Posts


     
  25. DeadHorse

    DeadHorse 1,000+ Posts

    There is only one superhero that can save America from this crisis:

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  26. Austintxusa

    Austintxusa 2,500+ Posts


     
  27. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 1,000+ Posts

    Fear not. The folks in the Quiverfull movement are aiming to ensure that American is repopulated with righteous, godly folk.


     
  28. Hornius Emeritus

    Hornius Emeritus 2,500+ Posts

    From Giovanni's link:




     
  29. Murphy'sBoy

    Murphy'sBoy 1,000+ Posts

    Deadhorse: That was a good one.
     
  30. gecko

    gecko 2,500+ Posts

    Wow...and all this time I thought the movie "Idiocracy" was a comedy....turns out it was a documentary.
     

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