The First 100 days

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  1. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

     
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  2. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    He knowingly lied to the FBI. How is that defensible? He pled guilty twice. By the book.
     
  3. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Sooner logic at its finest.
     
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  4. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    How is that illogical whatsoever? Dude lied to the FBI and pled guilty. Print the shirts!
     
  5. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    There has been no trial. No evidence has been submitted to prove that Flynn lied. DOJ has said they couldn’t get a conviction regardless if Flynn did lie because the evidence is so iffy. If it was so clear cut, where is the original interview report? Why is it missing? Why was the replacement edited by superiors? From Flynn’s perspective, he was having a casual conversation with the agents who he thought wanted some background info (which was intended by the agents). Flynn never felt he had to be scrupulous with his answers. If he did, he would have gotten a lawyer.

    Here is your sooner logic: Flynn pled guilty, ergo he lied to the FBI. In your world, Flynn had to lie because that makes him look like he is covering up something bad, like doing a dirty deal with the Russians. The facts say otherwise. It is no crime to talk with the Russians and no crime to tell them to not escalate. If Flynn had misled the FBI on a non-essential call you wouldn’t give a rat’s ***. It’s the connection to Russia that matters, so he had to lie to keep the collusion fairy tale.
     
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  6. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Lot's of back and forth.

    Coerced or not; when someone pleads guilty it appears they can retract it up to a certain point (when the punishment phase begins?). It also appears the DOJ dropped the case prior to the plea retraction being official.

    Is that accurate?
     
  7. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    It is my firm opinion, that in the absence of Democrats (moderates; conservative; not beholden to religious zealots or feminist extremism) that Trump is all that stands between a society ruled ruthlessly by totalitarian socialists (communists), open borders which will foster a feudal society and massive wealth transfers to buy votes and permanently lock in the dependent class and elites who will rule them. Warren and Sanders and their acolytes represented by Beto and AOC are in power on the Left. The Liberal vision subordinates our national sovereignty to the UN and will declare Christians to be a hate group all while giving religious fundamentalists from abroad a free pass. Radical angry feminists will attack everyone at will with militant political correctness. There is no braking mechanism for their ruthless OCD. Trump is all we have right now to stop them. We MUST have conservative judges on SCOTUS. Forget Trump's bravado and tweets. We must have more John Roberts' and no more Sotomayor's on the court. That is the reason for Trump because a Liberal President will appoint made as instructed jurists who will politically rubber-stamp the party's agenda just like they do in Venezuela. The only way SCOTUS will remain independent is with Conservative judges. Otherwise it's game over for our country and game over for the Constitution.

    And the biggest travesty is possible changes needed due to climate change or a possible need for single payer type health care system is that they have been co-opted by the most vile political movement in modern American history. We must seize these issue and bring them back to the middle and rid ourselves of the disease which is Liberalism.
     
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  8. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    According to this evidence, Flynn didn’t lie. Where is your evidence?

     
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  9. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
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  10. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Read the article in OU Bubba’s link to what is being said about the actual call.

     
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  11. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts


    From the article:

    “Flynn’s release by Barr only strengthens the suspicion that Flynn and Kislyak were furthering a corrupt arrangement between Trump and Putin. Flynn’s release by Barr only strengthens the suspicion that the corrupt arrangement continues to this day.”

    Cuckoo.

    I pegged OU Bubba as the guy with the tinfoil hat only a few months into the Mueller investigation.

    Cuckoo.

    I can see why. He only reads stuff from people who are lying to him or too naive who believe the lying spooks in the deep state.

    Cuckoo.
     
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  12. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    I'm still trying to figure out how much more evidence do people like Bubba need to figure out this whole investigation was a sham.
     
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  13. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Interesting that the media has created another narrative in the Minneapolis death that this story is now being ignored. 24/7 coverage now of Minneapolis. Not debating that case. Saying that this country should be more outraged what happened in the Flynn case and how the FBI behaved vs what has happened in Minneapolis.
     
  14. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    thanks mchammer for showing the evidence. I knew there was fishy stuff going on, but I didn't think it was that fishy.

    Even this libertarian gave the Deep State too much benefit of the doubt.
     
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  15. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
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  16. mchammer

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  17. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Nothing will happen to them.
     
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  18. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    The evidence points away from Flynn as being the liar:

     
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  19. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    In new docs released today, Flynn told by FBI that investigation was over. So, who was the liar here?

     
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  20. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    Sadly, I agree with this statement.
     
  21. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
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  22. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    I really think our society is confused on what government is and its purpose.

    Part of the problem is we ask the government to solve every problem. The big problem is that government is an organization with a monopoly on violence. No matter what they do, you get violence. It is like spam. Whether you want it or not you get the spam. The answer is to attempt solve problems outside of the organization that always brings a side of violence.
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    2.5m jobs created in May
    Maybe the biggest NFP shocker in history
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    They did stick in a pretty big disclaimer
    [​IMG]
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe BLS counted everyone that joined in riots as employed by Soros?
     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    did rock across the board
    these are 15m bars
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  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    ^ That was sarcastic right?
     
  28. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    I think the “LOL” gave it away.
     
  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    I missed the LOL
    thanks
    BUT you gotta admit it would not have surprised anyone if it was real
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Indubitably
     

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