The Irate 8 - What do hope for them?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by LonghornCatholic, Jul 28, 2021.

  1. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    They should just basically absorb the best 8 from the AAC and form a pretty decent basketball conference. They might even be able to save face with the football people and sort of "declare" that they're still Power-5 even though it won't be.

    But this only works if KU doesn't go to B1G, Tech doesn't go to Pac, etc.
  2. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Texas and OU are all they've got. Now that we're gone they're screwed. But I really don't care.
  3. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Winebibber

    According to The Athletic, which pulled its TV ratings data from Sports Media Watch, the 22 Oklahoma regular-season games in 2018-19 averaged 3.76 million viewers on ABC, Fox, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or FS1; the 18 Texas games on those channels averaged 3.2 million. The other 59 games that included the remaining eight Big 12 teams -- and not OU or UT--averaged about 886,000 viewers.

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  4. The Eyes of Texas

    The Eyes of Texas 500+ Posts

    Raping dozens of girls and covering it up is one thing, but allowing Mormons to be anywhere near me!!??!!! UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!
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  5. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Umm, and they call Mormons nonchristian.
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  6. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 2,500+ Posts

    You can sit by them and tell them how wrong their theology is.
    But this is a football thread. So i'm not going there.
  7. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Catholic like Sarkisian

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  8. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Catholic like Sarkisian

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  9. BornOrange0855

    BornOrange0855 100+ Posts

    There is nothing the Big 12 can do to repair or enhance their standing. Whether it dissolves, or they had UH, SMU, Central Florida, etc, it's a second or third tier conference now. God bless them, but TCU, Tech, Baylor--no matter what their record is or how many times they beat Texas or OU--they just don't move the needle. The best recruits aren't interested. ***** all you want about OU and UT being disloyal, but those schools were dragging us down.

    As for all the hate, I don't remember anyone lambasting TCU for leaving the Mountain West (or wherever) when they moved to the Big 12 to enhance their situation.
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  10. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 1,000+ Posts

    I actually feel some sympathy for TCU and Tech. But not Baylor. BU can wind up in the Sunbelt Conference or Conference USA for all I care.
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  11. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    My wife and FIL are Frog grads, and my UT grad dad taught at TCU for 2 years, so I have some love for the Horny Toads. I'm concerned for them and truly hope they land in a good place (while spitting blood in bailor's eyes on the way out).
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  12. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Catholic like Sarkisian

  13. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    I generally like TCU when they’re not playing us, but…

    Shrill and bitter State Senator Kolkhorst (a TCU grad) isn’t making many friends among Longhorns (or Sooners) at their silly and unnecessary hearing at the Capitol. It was, however, pretty funny to see Bowlsby scowling when Jay Hartzell was speaking.
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  14. Giovanni Jones

    Giovanni Jones 1,000+ Posts

    btw, TCU was the very first university to send my daughter (then a sophomore in high school) one of those hey-why-don't-you-submit-a-college-application-to-us letters. (I had no idea how many such letters would follow, from scores and scores of colleges.* I feel for all the trees that are cut down for this collegiate marketing scheme.)

    *my daughter's reaction was "no big deal, all my friends are getting those, too."
  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Big 12, the remaining 8, have nothing to add to the Pac 12.
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  16. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    Good school, nice campus, their student body is easy on the eyes, nice alumni (notwithstanding the recent embitterment of a State Senator or Rep or two...), generally welcoming fans at tailgates and games, nice stadium, nice basketball stadium, small but nice baseball stadium, over-achievers on the field, a worthy opponent. They can bring some value to the table in this new mix-up of conferences.
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  17. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    They may have to open a Stanford think tank for that much brain power in one place at one time.
  18. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    I've read the PAC doesn't want any of them, but Tech, OSU, and TCU have some value to add. Is it worth it? I dunno. I figure Tech will be at 50,000 students in another 10 years, they're hitting around 40,000 now.
  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    My money is on a merging of the B1G and Pac 12 if there are big changes. Those conferences have been in bed with each other forever that the Rose Bowl tie.
  20. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    Maybe so.

    Although the B1G is sitting in a relatively strong position, while the PAC is not. Some B1G commenters (speculators/homers) are projecting a grab of only the 4 California schools with the others PAC schools left hanging. Others are saying no merger, just some sort of scheduling partnership.
  21. Vino Bevo

    Vino Bevo Wine - how classy people get drunk

    Reminds me of the scenario that played out between the SWC and Big 8 - one conference absorbed the handful of schools they wanted (with one exception that was forced on them by a certain governor) and the others were left to figure it out. I could see the B1G bringing on some combination of USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, Cal and Washington, leaving the others to scramble.
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  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I think they take 6 if it happens. Not sure how they'd leave out Washington who checks all the boxes for the B1G, though I'm an alum so biased.

    I'd leave out Cal. They bring nothing athletically.
  23. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Academically, Berzerkley brings the most overrated, undereducated group of dumbasses to graduate from a four year college in this country. That includes A&M, NMSU, NEOA&M, Parsons (if it's still open), or choose your favorite waste of money, including those TV ad schools.

    Most disappointing two groups of graduates I've encountered in my long career in business are definitely Cal & UCLA.
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  24. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    No comment about the graduates but they couldn't care less about athletics. If you're looking only at TV sets, Stanford brings all the SF market.

    If you're the B1G you have to be concerned about diluting the $54M/year that was paid to schools in 2019-2020. Double dipping in places like AZ, OR, WA and in the SF metro market don't make sense. USC/UCLA is the only argument for taking 2 in the same market, IMHO.

    The only problem with a 6 from the West Coast is which 4 teams from the current B1G would get stuck traveling A LOT. Geographically I can't imagine Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota would be supportive of all that travel to the PST timezone.
  25. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    All those farmers work long hours, so the night games might fit the bill. Maybe the Gophers could convince the rioters to watch instead of looting.

    USC & Stanford are the jewels because the BigTen is already getting Nike money without having to put up with looking at those hideous uniforms.

    Kind of unique that the PAC is the only conference where the two private schools are the most attractive and bring the most to the table.
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  26. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    Your nightmare: stuck in a dinner with Bowelsby and some BYU supporters at a Landry’s in Berkeley, California.

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  27. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    I dunno. Nebraska might like the recruiting angle of going to the West Coast frequently. As much grief as California sometimes catches around here, they’re usually the #2 football recruiting state. USC can only take so many, and Stanford can only take smart kids. Nebraska can admit anyone with a pulse, and it produces very little home grown top-level football talent.
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  28. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts


    That is just mean. My eyes cannot unsee that, and it is doubtful I'll sleep before season starts.

    At least you didn't say Tillman would be there.
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  29. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

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  30. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    We’ll then…. Maybe we’ll see Bru McCoy portal to Nebraska.


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