The Media Industry

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by texas_ex2000, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Matt Taibbi is a brilliant media figure and analyst. Link.
     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  4. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    ^ THAT is a joke
    not unexpected but still a joke
     
  5. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Maybe he wore out his abacus on Trump?
     
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  6. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Biden lies every time he gives a speech. The lies he told on the campaign trail are now surfacing on day one EO's.
     
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  7. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    A politician lied? O god, where are the smelling salts?

    it is what you do to get elected. Mexican wall, etc.
    The greatest of all time was Woodrow “he kept us out of war” Wilson. See also LBJ and the Tonkin Gulf incident. Or JFK and the missile gap.

    or a million other examples.
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Who are the Fascists?

     
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  9. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Fascism was a mid twentieth century Italian political movement cranked up by a charismatic demagogue. And fascists were not the only ones trying to shut people up. The US Justice department under Woodrow Wilson did as did the sainted Abraham Lincoln. Old Abe jailed journalists and shut down newspapers that opposed his cs war.
    Stalin and Mao weren’t Fascists either.
    We need to come up with a more apt phrase to describe a holes like Politico pack

    calling somebody a Fascist is merely to say you don’t like them
     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Fascism is localized socialism, inside your own borders
    Communism is international socialism
    The are both just different versions of socialism
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  12. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    huisache and JoeFan are both correct.

    But let us not be shy to use the label fascism for what it really is. It is collectivized thinking focused on national identity. It was anti-individual and anti-capitalist. It was anti-free speech because they taught that there could be no dissenters to the national mission. Most of what they talked about was economic in nature. Hitler started WW2 for economic reasons. He wanted all "Germans" under one state so that they could protect all "Germans" from the depredations of trade with poor foreigners. This is one area where Trump's rhetoric was a bit fascistic. I am all for America but the trade protectionism was fascistic. We need free trade with the world to be prosperous. You can still go after bad actors in trade. That isn't fascistic but putting up trade barriers like tariffs to protect Americans is. The American economy needs to innovate and to be free. It doesn't need protection in general.
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


     
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  14. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    I've never seen one side of the aisle that is so absolutely terrified of another's freedom of speech before.
     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It's never happened in the history of the country
    Not like this
     
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  16. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    Read Bubba's posts. He's all for it.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    That poster is a troll
    He spends his days trying to bait you guys into arguments about something he probably doesnt even care about
    This is how folks with inferior educations get their jollies
    Stop falling for it
     
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  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    What did the tweet say?
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It was a tweet from the owner of a literary agency, I think
    She said she was shocked to discover someone at her firm using Parler and Gab
    She strongly apologized to everyone who may have been offended
     
  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

  21. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    I think he actually believes what he says most of the time. He does sometimes troll.
     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    yep
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I dont, unless you count the idea that he likes entertaining himself on the West Mall as "a belief."
     
  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    " I think he actually believes what he says most of the time."
    That is pure D sad.
     
  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    President Joe Biden’s press team may move to restrict the briefings held at the White House to liberal mainstream media outlets, if language from the new President’s deputy press secretary if more than just talk.

    “Organizations or individuals who traffic in conspiracy theories, propaganda and lies to spread disinformation will not be tolerated,” TJ Ducklo, Biden’s deputy press secretary, said in a statement to Politico, “and we’ll work with the WHCA to decide how to handle those instances moving forward.”

    Think this applies to Acosta?
     
  26. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    If Trump had kicked out all the media fools who peddled the lie that “Russia stole the election”, there would have been 4 reporters left in the room.

    So Slow Joe’s media mouthpiece is going to muzzle news outfits who say things they don’t like. Remember though “Democracy Dies in Darknesses!!!”
     
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  27. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    To a leftist a conspiracy theory is anything that doesn't follow the liberal narrative. FBI malfeasance in the Russian collusion case, Hunter Biden's laptop, and now election fraud are/were conspiracy theories to the left.
    They're more than welcome to their beliefs but they also try to shut up anybody who doesn't follow their beliefs. This I have a problem with.
     
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  28. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Check this...

    A black man was brutalized by 12 black people. The article chose to focus heavily on the apparent fact that the victim was a member of a gang and had a checkered past.

    But when the cops shoot a black man with a checkered past we are screeched at if we mention that checkered past.

    Why don't the Liberals see this? Emotional impairment and political hypocrisy.

    The example of this are out there all day, every day. I want our Liberal friends to admit it and understand that while their values may be laudably idealistic, the fact remains that they believe in liars.
     
  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    They live in fantasy world where certain facts don’t matter, like men can’t have periods (though Seattle Husker may be an exception).
     
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  30. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Whenever differences among people exist, they must be reconciled by those people and someone's (maybe everyone's) freedom is going to suffer. This is evident everywhere. The individuals can, informally, trade off lesser freedoms for freedoms they value more during the reconciliation, or the decision on how to reconcile can be assigned to a monopoly, such as the government. Sometimes the reconciliation is performed by a social media platform such as Facebook or Hornfans by cancelling or suspending a discordant view. When the difference among various values is least, such as the vast majority of people agreeing that murder is wrong, assigning the power to punish the wrongdoers to the government has a minimal effect on freedom. If the same government monopoly were to determine the best size shoe to wear, there would be mass discomfort. When the government begins to force a value(s) on people that a vast majority of the people have differences over, serious problems will develop.

    When the government, or a party in control of the government, adopts a "transcendant" value (ex: social justice, climate change, illegal voting methods, etc.) they will impose that value on the people even if a large portion, or even the majority, of the people do not prefer that value. That seriously curtails freedom. If those who had their freedom curtailed fight against the government, force, ever increasing if need be (maybe 26,000 troops in Washington D.C.), will be used to protect the "government's value".

    Democrats want to repeal the American Revolution, which was based on the experience of man and the shortcomings and dangers of government as actually observed (i.e. empirical evidence). The founding fathers understood the ridiculousness of "Utopian speculations" such as "social justice" or "equity" expressed by today's Democrats, as well as the fallibility of government. It is too bad that Democrats don't understand this concept.
     
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