The Media Industry

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  1. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    You're really trying to find a grain of sand to convince me of the existence of a beach. I mispoke above, it was Flynn that was admonished.
     
  2. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

  3. Garmel

    Garmel 1,000+ Posts

    This is what you said, "Then the judge admonished Flynn's lawyer for insinuating entrapment at which point the lawyer completely reversed course. That's what occurred even if inconvenient for the narrative one wants to believe."

    Normally, I wouldn't care because all of us are wrong on occasion but your snark causes so many confrontations on here. You instigated this.
     
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  4. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    So I'm not clear on the jump between believing that Obama and Hillary (or their underlings) conspired to spy on the Trump camp and interfere with the election and believing all the different theories out there floated by some internet group. I'm pretty sure I believed at least one or two things about this country that were also believed by either the far right or the far left. So I guess I'm linked to anyone with whom I share some belief? How does that work exactly? I believe just like the Westboro Baptist church that people who reject Jesus won't be saved, so does that mean that I need to be labeled a supporter of a hate group? I also think that people are littering the oceans with their trash and it needs to stop, so I guess I'm also in league with the eco-terrorist movement.

    This whole thing where you get to condemn someone and belittle their idea by finding the most extreme group out there that shares the belief, point out other stuff they believe that's crazy, and make the case that it means the person you're attacking is just as crazy as that group. It's dishonest, but I guess that's how we have discussions now.

    This seems to be where the disconnect happens. You claim (and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt) to be honestly assuming that the Mueller probe was completely apolitical with the sole intent on uncovering Russian interference in the election. They - and let's be honest, most who have been watching this - are now saying that the vast majority of the point of this investigation was to try and tie this to the Trump campaign. (Which is why no one seems curious at all about the connections of Fusion GPS, the Clinton campaign, and the Russians involved in these meetings.) It's not conspiracy theory crap to think that clearly there was political motivations from inside and outside the beltway to pin something on Trump - especially given that all the interference happened on Obama's watch, while he was dismissing it as a non-issue and telling Medvedev on a hot mike about all the flexibility he would have in a second term. So if some random tinfoil hat wearing guy thinks this is suspicious, that means that anyone who thinks it's suspicious must be crazy like him?

    What out of the investigation has allowed us to address any of this? Since apparently there has been no connection made to the Trump campaign and either of these things - in fact have they even shown there was any sort of coordination by anyone? (Let alone "collusion.")

    I don't think anyone wants the Russians to hack voter roles or anything else. But is it ridiculous to point out that none of you cared one bit about this until Hillary lost? And that it doesn't seem like there was any serious effort to look anywhere outside of Trump's campaign for connections? Or are we just not hearing about those investigations? I know Mueller fingered a bunch of Russian organizations that don't care and will never stand trial. So are we celebrating that as some sort of win?
     
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  5. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 1,000+ Posts

    Very nice Prodigal!
     
  6. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Apparently none according to Mueller
     
  7. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Flynn is still not sentenced. We know Flynn was slimed by the media and the IC accusing of him having an affair with a Russian spy (who is suing the media). The whole thing stinks.
     
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  8. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Okay Longest, you got me. They didn't. Doesn't change much.
     
  9. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

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  10. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    That's being twisted in the exact same way as Obama was by the people who claim Obama said he had Muslim faith.
     
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  11. Garmel

    Garmel 1,000+ Posts

    LOL! LongestHorn loves fake news
     
  12. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    The self-described extremely stable genius POTUS typed "with Russia helping me to get elected" isn't twisting words.
     
  13. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 1,000+ Posts

    LH should be running for POTUS - he already understands he gets more traction if he can out-crazy his chief rivals, SH and OUB.
     
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  14. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Read Barr’s interview (last half) regarding the investigation of the investigators. I will be proven right. Why else name a prosecutor who is probably 10x better than Mueller could dream of being?

    William Barr interview: Read the full transcript
     
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  15. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    The Mueller report is like the Bible. Republicans have never read it, but still pretend to know what it says.
     
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  16. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Of course it is. Again, it's EXACTLY the same as the "My Muslim faith" - someone was denying something and worded their denial awkwardly. Obama was obviously trying to say "They were wrong about me having Muslim faith" and Trump was obviously trying to say "They were wrong about Russia helping me". Claiming otherwise makes no sense whatsoever - why would they intentionally admit to something that they were trying to deny? And if your claim is that it was accidental, then you just agreed with my point.
     
  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Republicans maybe haven't read the Bible but they have heard their pastor preach it. Democrats smoke pot and do mushrooms while they try to imagine what it says.
     
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  18. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    My opinion of Dem/Rep on moral issues...We all come up short with respect to historical and biblical values from time to time...The republican/conservative response is to say the rules/values were right and I was wrong and/or weak and failed to live up to the standard and I need to do better. The democrat/liberal response is to say the rules/values must be wrong because I don't want, or can't, live up to them so we must change/ignore the rules.
     
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  19. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

  20. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

  21. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Agreed. It's almost like words can incite violence. ;)
     
  22. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    What words?
     
  23. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Shooter was a gun show loving, jackboot fed hatin' Texan who loved govt conspiracies and sucked at life so he shot a revolving door of a Fed courthouse. Crazy? Naturally.
     
  24. Garmel

    Garmel 1,000+ Posts

    More violence comes from left leaning Chicago in a weekend than what comes from crazed right-wingers in a year.
     
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  25. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Yet the source and fuel of the violence couldn't be more different thus need to be treated as unique problems.
     
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  26. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    Isn't the general source of 99.9% of all shootings due to being mentally unstable or at the very least out of touch with reality combined with anger toward something or someone specifically? There's really no difference other than demographics and location. Blame the out of control shooter not the "fuel".
     
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  27. I35

    I35 2,500+ Posts

    Google admitting they will attempt to manipulate the next election.

     
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  28. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    ^
    Shocked I am


    not
     
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  29. I35

    I35 2,500+ Posts

    “It’s really remarkable. Asian media (and people interviewed) are optimistic, thankful, happy, and overjoyed at the possibility of peace. US media is angry, pessimistic, and arguing for the goal of nuclear conflict.”
     
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  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    We can't have a Republican, let alone THIS Republican, bring about peace.
     
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