The Trump Press Conference

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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  2. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    So Trump is now hard-right? When did that happen? Didn't you call him out as "not a true conservative"?
     
  3. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Trump said "electoral college victory" then you point out the losers? He's stated this alternate fact on multiple occasions and only today did he say "Republican". At best, Trump is trying to be purposely ambiguous.

    Notice the language Joe Fan uses over an over which is not factually correct. He continuously writes "Hacking the election" when in fact Shep Smith said over and over "Hacking the DNC" and "Hacking the opposition" in that clip. Why do you think he does this? Because NOBODY is saying the actual election was hacked. In fact, Obama and others have said that the sanctity of our voting machines are intact. Why use this language? It allows him to continuously pivot away from the evidence of the DNC hacking and the proximity of Trump's campaign team to Russia/Wikileaks (see Flynn, Stone, etc). They juxtapose "hacking the election" with "hacking the DNC" to influence the election.

    Oh, and our intelligence agencies are saying without a doubt that Russia was involved in the hack. Aside from declassifying the information, it's as close to a fact as one can get.

    He did only after being pushed for a yes/no answer. Before that every answer contained an ejection clause.

    Joe Fan continues with the "hack the election" language. He's correct that there is no evidence of the election was hacked. Influenced is another matter. Trumps behavior before and after the election toward Russia, the DNC hacking evidence and leaks that members of Trump's campaign had ongoing conversations with Russia are more than enough to justify an investigation.

    We know that 19 days passed between Trump learning that Flynn lied and him being fired. There was a claim of an investigation by the WH Counsel but what would they have been investigating? Are their investigation skills better than the Justice Dept. (e.g. FBI)? Only after the leak(s) to the media did Trump fire him and that was a mere hour after Kellyane Conway said "General Flynn has the full confidence and support of President Trump". It's not a leap to say that the media scrutiny (fed by the leak) had a role in Flynn's dismissal.
     
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  4. Seattle Husker

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  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Thanks! I hadn't had time to do this.
     
  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Trump isn't hard right. He is ideologically scattered and very loose with facts. He's Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho with a twist of Archie Bunker.
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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