Trump's Team

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by theiioftx, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

  2. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    This is no different than comparing "Apprentice" Trump and "Trump Organization" Trump. In both cases one is pandering to draw the most public attention with drama and flash. While the other will run the country like he ran his business organization.

    He spent years on that #1 show learning what attracted the most public interest. To assume he didn't strongly apply that to his candidacy PR campaign is naive.

    It's not that he lied on his stances as much as they were dramatized beyond the methods he will use to implement them as an effective business man.
     
  3. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I know the President didn't want to have a beer with McConnell, but I bet Obama is more than happy to share a little nose candy with ol Mitchy given El Presidente's previous dalliances with blow. No "line" item veto needed!
     
  4. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    People who are hyper literal have a hard time understanding Trump. Generally those people aren't business leaders but work for one instead (or work independently like lawyers, accountants or professors).
     
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  5. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    :trophy::trophy::trophy:

    Trump supporters are a bunch of business leaders! Reporters should have been checking business cards at his rallies.
     
  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I love seeing all the euphemisms and rhetorical contortions his supporters are going through to keep from saying, "he lied" or "he flip-flopped." It can't be that. It has to be that we're "hyper-literal."
     
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  8. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    I don't remember where I saw this, but I had the same thought as you. I don't know much about Mattis, but what I know I like.
     
  9. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    This should be updated to say "Trumpicans will try to justify supporting Trump".

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  10. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I read the supposed flip flops on USA Today. Like most media, they take one small thing and declare it a flip flop. Like Obamacare - he said he liked pre-existing condition parts and CNN, MSNBC and USA Today declared him a liar.

    I would hope - especially in the case of Trump - that he accepts some counsel on all issues and positions. As for building a 100 percent wall, who cares if what he does build stems the flow of illegals? Or the deportation force is actually empowering ICE to do their job?

    I agree with the previous post- you seem a little too pissed that he won to accept if he actually accomplishes what he said he would do.
     
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  11. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I never said that. I was inferring that Trump makes his livelihood by speaking to other business leaders, and as a result, speaks the way that he does. Now, put that person in front of the general population. Some people are going to understand him and others don't. I wasn't implying that all who understand him are business leaders, but I WAS implying that business leaders are not hyper literal like yourself.
     
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  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    In other words....don't listen to what he says. A visual representation of that argument.
     
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  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Proving my point that you are missing out on half the world who are not literal. Well done.
     
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  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I think I understand now...you're referring to #3 or #4 below. We actually agree! Trump isn't literal.

     
  15. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    These three? No doubt, he flipped on prosecuting Hillary after counseled by his team on bringing the country together. He had nothing to gain. I think he should, but she is done regardless. The FBI still might bring charges at some point as more emails are released from the State Department even today.

    Seriously, your other two are straight from liberal media. You are better than that. And joining the liberal flip flop blame team doesn't help.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Marines I know love him, big time
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


    Misstating a future event is not lying
    By definition
    It's impossible
    To believe otherwise is to contort rhetoric
     
  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    When you're very rigid in the primary and win the nomination by claiming your opponents not to be rigid enough, you shouldn't be surprised if people use your subsequent inconsistent statements against you. All I'm doing is applying Trump's own words and the words of his surrogates.

    And I'm not pissed that he won. I'm conflicted as I said I'd be if he won. I don't like the sleazy Carrier deal and the Bannon hire, but I like his response to the SA police shooting and most of his cabinet nominees.
     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  20. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    From the gotnews.com link:

    Rohrabacher refused an offer to be the next Deputy Secretary of State due to the possbility of serving under a “neocon” head of the State Department such as Trump-hating failed presidential candidate Mitt Romney,unstable warmonger John Bolton, or gun-grabbing classified info leaker David Petraeus.

    But the Intercept has a different take: (https://theintercept.com/2016/12/02...t-establishment-is-now-advising-donald-trump/). Most of the people advising Trump and being selected to fill slots are the same bankers and neocons that have been running the show and calling the shots the past 20 years.

    The people reportedly being considered for Secretary of State are all over the spectrum. Rhorabacher would make me happy. The current US warmongering foreign policy trend has only made the world less stable, spread terrorism, and run up hundreds of billions more debt.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  23. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Carson's qualifications for HUD secretary is "I lived in subsidized housing while growing up." :brickwall:

    I'd have no problem with Carson as Sec of HHS. He's well qualified for that role. I'm not sure his training as a Neurosurgeon prepares him for oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
     
  24. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are now moving to D.C. Due to pesky nepotism laws Trump's son-in-law hasn't been given an official role in the administration yet but expect Kushner to be a close adviser regardless of his official title.
     
  25. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    Husker, I think Carson would have been best as Secretary of Education, which is much more of a glorified spokesman role than an executive. Frankly, Trump probably could have gotten a person more aligned with the HUD role.

    But a head through a brick wall emoticon? Really? If you're putting your head through a brick wall over the nomination to HUD of a really smart guy who has used his success as a neurosurgeon to help kids and families in the inner city, how are you supposed to have a decent conversation with folks around here?

    Like I said earlier, Trump will do something that is actually and meaningfully head-scatching stupid. Save your emoticons for then so that you don't dilute them for this.
     
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  26. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    Didn't Hillary say that Bill would be her National Economic Advisor and that he would run the economy?

    And if he's his advisor, what's the big problem? He's not an officer or running a department. Trust is a big qualification of being advisor. That's why we listen to spouses and children.

    And also...Kushner is Jewish. That means there can't be any truth to this up for an advisor stuff because the media told me Trump is an anti-semite. Whew Husker, you dodged that one!
     
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  27. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    Based on my experience with HUD, the only things needed to run that organization would be arrogance and incompetence.
     
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  28. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    If she gets this job, I'll start watching press conferences. That would be pure entertainment. I've always liked her in general although she can be pretty shrill at times and she had serious Trump blinders on for most of the campaign, and that got seriously annoying after a while.

    Well according to Peter Jackson, that's when King Kong climbed the Empire State building. That was kinda fun...
     
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  29. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    This is just utterly false and silly. You do not have to be arrogant.
     
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  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts


    So, Ben Carson apparently hasn't lived in government or subsidized housing either but merely been around those who have. Armstrong Williams either needs to stop being a surrogate for Dr. Carson or simply needs to shut up because he may be the most "misquoted" person in politics.

    Dr. Carson's mother should be lauded for her effort in trying to stay out of public housing.

     

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