TX GOP Congressman Nixed As Keynote Speaker For Cybersecurity Conf.

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  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    "The effort by the left to de-platform conservative speakers continues. This time it is Rep. Will Hurd, former CIA officer, and cybersecurity expert, who has been disinvited to be a keynote speaker at a cybersecurity conference. The reason? He’s a pro-life Republican politician. No, really.
    This slight doesn’t make any sense at all except to highlight the fact that there is no tolerance from the pro-abortion left for pro-life politicians. What does a pro-life position have to do with cybersecurity? The answer is absolutely nothing
    .Zack Whittaker, a security editor for Tech Crunch (and CBS alum, according to his Twitter profile) posted a tweet showing Hurd’s voting record calling it “a terrible voting record on women’s rights.” Whittaker did, however, acknowledge that Will Hurd is one of the few lawmakers who “get” cybersecurity."
    GOP congressman nixed as keynote speaker for cybersecurity conference


    I am not sure what to say or which emoji to use. maybe:confused2: or:brickwall: or:idk:
     
  2. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    Maybe it's time to retroactively abort all of these pro death politicians.
     
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  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    LOL
    and yet......
     
  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    This is idiocy. And what's laughable is that Hurd isn't some fire-beathing conservative. He's fairly moderate and isn't particularly confrontational. He's pretty low-key and one of the sharpest security minds on Capitol Hill.
     
  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    There is obviously a continued culture war. The Progressives didn't stop with gay marriage and trans bathrooms. Surprise, surprise.

    The surprising thing is how Progressives have some how influenced corporate executives. My thought is that there are some social justice groups who are putting pressure on CEOs and BoDs.
     
  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Nope. The goal is to do more than win on policy. The goal is to reframe the debate on issues like gay marriage or abortion to make the conservative position politically toxic. They want someone who opposes gay marriage or opposes abortion to be viewed like someone who supports segregation. That solidifies their side, makes undecided/indifferent people break their way, and takes issues off the table for debate without discrediting them.

    They are doing this by couching the conservative position in their political narrative on the issue. That makes it look terrible and makes their position look righteous.

    Consider how this douchey busybody Zack Whittaker (who's obviously a self-righteous millennial just judging by his appearance and that "urban"/hipster beard) frames Hurd's position. He's not against abortion (which most view as defensible even if they disagree). He is against "women's rights" (which is indefensible and toxic). The Left does this because it works. The public of today actually is shallow and stupid enough to judge issues based on superficial framing rather than substance.

    The Right is terrible at combating this, and most of the time, they don't even know it's occurring. For example, we think we lost gay marriage when the Supreme Court ruled against us. We didn't. We lost gay marriage when the issue was reframed from being for or against "gay marriage" to being for or against "marriage equality." That was a phony caricature of the issue, but we largely accepted it as reality when it wasn't. And after that ********* framing was repeated and tolerated several million times, it gained momentum and became dominant. Hell, the Supreme Court basically accepted it as serious analysis.

    And now, someone who holds the position on marriage that was virtually universal in the civilized world for 5,000 years and until about 20 minutes ago is viewed as toxic and crazy.

    No question about it, and the social justice groups are organized. If CEOs blow them off, they will boycott. They will go on Twitter (where there SJWs have outsized influence), and their cause will go viral. However, if CEOs capitulate, most conservatives won't care. They may pout a little, but there won't be an organized boycott. Tons of companies have virtue signaled about abortion rights recently (including Twitter, Disney, and Netflix). How many pro-lifers have walked away from Twitter or Netflix or cancelled their vacations to Disney World because of it? Not many.
     
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  7. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Deez, do you think the answer is for political groups on the Right to organize in the same way?
     
  8. OUBubba

    OUBubba 1,000+ Posts

    I hate when I agree with the herd here. (no pun intended).
     
  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Even Barry Switzer occasionally made the right call.
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Yep, in the same vein as conservatives casting progressive positions with terms like "open borders". The extreme rhetoric used by both sides to win political arguments is indended to suck the air out of the debate.

    Extremism sucks.
     
  11. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 1,000+ Posts

    30% of libs want open borders.
     
  12. old65horn

    old65horn 500+ Posts

    I think the number is 28% while only 13% of conservatives want open borders.
     
  13. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 1,000+ Posts

    Those 13% wouldn't be conservatives.
     
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  14. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    You don't the half of it. I work for one of the biggest banks in the world. We haven't done so great as of late against our competition but our CEO and other execs still spend half their time and half our company's internal discussion board talking about cultural goals.
     
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  15. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I agree about the hyper-partisanship and intentionally using phrasing out of context, and right up until they all raised their hands to follow Castro's plan on decriminalizing illegal immigration, I would have said you were correct. But how does taking a system that is already a sieve and making it softer on punishment, softer on enforcement, less active in protection and almost "inviting" immigration not constitute "open borders". If people aren't stopped by the prospect of jail time, criminal record, drowning, separation from their kids, etc... Why on earth would they be swayed by a $500 fine? Of course the answer is....they won't. If you really believe this will lead to reduced offenses then I would suggest you try and roll this out for drunk driving. I'm sure all those folks would be more than happy to learn a fine is just as effective as jail time. If fines are just as good, why does the left always push for jail time for executives that violate the law. Civil fines are not just as good.
     
  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    BOSd
    I don't get it. Do these CEOs and BoDs think that way ir do they think all their customers think that way?
     
  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    They have been deceived to think that if they would just make the culture of their corporation more socially just, then the world would respond by buying their products. They think one comes from the other. Profits only come if you appease the gods.
     
  18. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    These morons don’t realize that making money is the best insurance of all.
     
  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Neither a civil fine nor threat of imprisonment in an overcrowded penal system have proven effective at stemming illegal immigration. The cost of imprisonment is enormous. The only truly effective tactic would be to eliminate any forms of employment. The business communities would push any politician out of office who implemented an effective crackdown on employers. That won't happen because both parties and their partisans enjoy the politics of the issue as a way to energize their base.
     
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  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    SH
    You make an excellent and frustrating point.
     
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  21. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    Ultimately E-Verify coupled with hefty fines is the only measure that will stop it. As long as the incentive is there, some will always try their luck. But I would also say that the Open Borders mentality of the current crop of dem candidates will make it worse....just as DACA made it worse.
     
  22. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    At this point there are true evangelist making these moves. The people heading these initiatives at our firm are themselves LGBT, etc. They truly see it as their mission to pursue "inclusivity". What I find crazy is that it is relatively easy to get money for these efforts and comparatively challenging to get money to get actual IT training for my guys. Priorities are really out of whack.
     
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  23. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Alternatively prepare a proposal that requires you visit at least 2 European capitals to further the company’s inclusivity.
     
  24. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    I would say this is proof of just how rich and successful we have become as a society. Corporations can divide their focus. You can't do that and be profitable when you are building capital and wealth. You can only do that with once you have accumulated a great market position.

    These kinds of actions though can reduce profitability and soon their focus will have to be unified or the company will go away.
     
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  25. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Why Things Break: Easy Causes of Business and Investing Failure
     
  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    This is why my private civil action is the best idea. It penalizes crooked employers with major financial ramifications while easily protecting innocent ones. Furthermore, it doesn't matter if the feds don't want to enforce the laws, because private citizens and whistleblowers can do it. If it got passed, the problem would go away inside a week.
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So Mr D
    How would that work?
     
  28. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 1,000+ Posts

    It doesn't work now, and it would simply be easier, and probably less costly, for the government to do their job and stop illegal immigration at the border. They could also stop giving illegals incentives to come here, but I know that makes too much sense .Businesses should not be required to do the government's job.....again.
     
  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I've talked about it before, but this is from my previous post on it.

     
  30. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mr D
    Thanks
    I missed it the first time.
    A very simple effective idea/ tool. Too bad it has no chance of passing the House.
    I know several construction people who would be happy to see that.
    I am sure there are some landscapers too.
     
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