UT Band Could Be There This Sat But Vote Not To Play

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Phil Elliott, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 500+ Posts

    You mean the party of slavery and segregation?

    The next Democratic president after the Eyes was written, W Wilson elected in 1912, amount other things, re-segregated the federal bureaucracy, and held a White House screening of Birth of a Nation.

    So if the Eyes has to be cancelled, shouldn't the Democrat party be too? How can the Student Democrats be allowed to continue based on the racialist history of their own party?
     
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  2. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 500+ Posts

    You need help. Seriously. Professional help. I could spend paragraphs on your posts, but a mental health professional would be more beneficial for you
     
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  3. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    I told him the same thing on the Women's BB thread about the BLM photo. Doesn't sound like he has taken that advice.
     
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  4. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    The logical conclusion to JJs point of view is that the entire university should be canceled because its history is inexplicably tied to racism. Saying that eliminating The Eyes rectifies or eases the mind in spite of this is incredibly offensive.
     
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  5. 4th_floor

    4th_floor From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta.

    He should be sued for the amount of $ that dried up not related to Covid.
     
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  7. Orangeyman

    Orangeyman 100+ Posts

    That's all I expect. It would be great if everyone agreed that it is actually a positive/uplifting/uniting song and tradition with ZERO racist intent. Such as shame that some of these young guys have bought into a vision of the world seen only through racial lenses.
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I dont think they thought this way when they signed with Texas. If they had felt that way, logic says they would have signed with a different school (everyone we sign has multiple offers/had multiple options). Assuming this is correct, then they were taught to hate Texas only after they arrived at Texas.
     
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  9. Orangeyman

    Orangeyman 100+ Posts

    100% agree.
     
  10. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Of course they didn't. They would have gone to LSU or Alabama or Georgia. Anyone of those very unracist places in our country. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    If that one UT prof gets tenure after this, heads need to roll
     
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  12. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    The real problem is tenured. Is this guy also tenured?
     
  13. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 500+ Posts

    Ha, or USC. The famous ‘hood of 90’s music and movies, South Central LA, has had an ethnic cleansing since then by the Hispanics.
     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I see "associate professor"
    And Dept Chair

    He was also a "fisheries advisor" to Nicaragua during the Sandinista reign
     
  15. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    Outplacement is a wonderful thing
     
  16. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 500+ Posts

    I’d love to hire a “helicopter tour” advisor to Chile during the Pinochle reign.
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    WAIT
    I take that back
    "He" is not us.
     
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  19. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  20. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    "Adapted" from minstrel shows? Come DMN..... Do these writers actually do any research. Black students weren't even on campus in 1903. The song has NOTHING to do with Black people. It never did. Lee sought to heal the country after the war. He wasn't some comic book villain. He wasnt Skeletor. The south lost and he said its over, let's reunify and move forward.

    The song has never been about discrimination or racism. Do better journalists.
     
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  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe a better phrase would be, “a song with roots going back to minstrel shows”? How would you say it?
     
  22. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    excerpt..."The school song, adapted from early 20th-century minstrel shows, sparked heated debate earlier this year when a group of Texas players objected to standing for the tune postgame, citing the song’s racist connotation."

    This crap is getting ridiculous. Every new article about this issue, goes further down the assumptive phrasing of "it's racist". The song was debuted at an opera house, not in a minstrel show. There is no way that the then Pres of UT was intending this with any racial overtones. There were no blacks at UT at the time, so no one in the audience would have interpreted it that way. The Pres of UT wasn't out in the general public saying the "The Eyes of Texas are upon you." He was speaking specifically to his students, which were an all white crowd and telling them to represent UT well. It wasn't a scare tactic. it was intended to convey that they have been entrusted with the reputation of UT and even Texas...do your best.

    "journalist" these days are utter pieces of crap.
     
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  23. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    Even that's poorly worded. Minstrel shows were a thing in those days and many days after. You could say everything had "roots going back to minstrel shows."

    Its just intellectually dishonest. Let's go graffiti BLM on the headstones of every UT student, professor and staffer who lived back then why don't we? After all, they have roots to minstrel shows.

    The song isn't about Black people. It's not about racism. When it was written I guarantee they weren't thinking to themselves "F the N***** this song isn't theirs bwahahaha!"
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I agree no context was provided.
     
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  25. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Anyway, on the “on the field” forum someone asked what was MM’s opinion on the matter in one of the threads after the OU game. I thought MM opinion was pretty good. Since Dems and big tech like the eyes of the state watching over you in order to cancel you, not sure why they wouldn’t love the song.
     
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  26. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    Exactly. By these idiots logic EVERYTHING was racist. Ok then, get rid of it all. Why stop with a song? Thats stupid. Really? A song is what bothers you people? Not the freaking institution itself?

    But but the institution isn't racist anymore....

    Exactly you fools. And guess what the song represents....

    THE INSTITUTION.
     
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  27. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    A long time ago in a galaxy far far away.... people were awful....

    TRIGGERED!!!!!!!
     
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  28. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    so the band isn't going to play the song. then we don't need (or want ) a band. I think its time to give them the hard choice like the did the athletes. Do it....or turn in your uniform.
     
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  29. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Yes, the band and players should have known about the song before they went to Texas, but what about the seemingly more educated "professor"? What's his excuse? Why is he still at Texas if it so racist and steeped in racism?
     
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    Last edited: Nov 6, 2020
  30. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    He's the clever one collecting a paycheck from the institution he is trying to destroy.
     
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