VY Arrested Again for DWI

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by stanhin, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    High blood pressure, diabetes, etc.
    There are genetic "diseases" passed down that once discovered can be controlled yet not cured.
    Most, even the medical world, now believe alcohol/drug addiction to be genetically passed along.
    "In 1956 the American Medical Association decided that alcoholism is a disease,"
    A Disease

    Cancer may not be a good example.

    And my sobriety came from what I can only call a spiritual, "burning bush", experience.
    Or maybe call it a psychological upheaval.
    But I had about as much choice in it as I did my drinking.
    After this experience I did find my way into a program to help stay that way.
    I was hours away from death beforehand.

    And all recovering addicts I know accept full responsibility for their actions.
    I don't feel I have been "let off the hook" in any form or fashion.
     
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  2. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Body size, eye color, skin color, hair color, are all human traits that are passed on genetically.

    Being passed on genetically doesn't define something as being a disease.
     
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  3. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    The key word I put in bold. Accepting responsibility is part of the process of beating addiction. Those still in addiction - not so much. It's always somebody else's fault.
     
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  4. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    Thanks Captain Obvious. ;)

    I merely stated some diseases are genetic.
    Never said everything passed along is a disease.
     
  5. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    Believe me, the last thing those still in addiction are worried about is if they have a disease.
    They've yet to even admit they have a problem.
     
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  6. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Your grouping and ordering of these sentences, quoted without editing, suggest an "if A and if B, then C" construct:

    There are genetic "diseases" passed down that once discovered can be controlled yet not cured.
    Most, even the medical world, now believe alcohol/drug addiction to be genetically passed along.
    "In 1956 the American Medical Association decided that alcoholism is a disease,"


    A: There are genetic "diseases" passed down that once discovered can be controlled yet not cured.

    B: Most, even the medical world, now believe alcohol/drug addiction to be genetically passed along.

    C: "In 1956 the American Medical Association decided that alcoholism is a disease,"

    That's the way I read it.

    If there are genetic diseases, and if addiction is genetically passed on, then
    addiction is a disease.
     
  7. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    Yes. I agree.
     
  8. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    I commend Moondog and I don't exist and others for getting out from under Alcoholism. I have witnessed two brilliant UT alumns waste their lives and eventually both die due to this disease. I grew up with their sons. I have a close friend battling it right now. This disease will destory a man's life. I have seen it first hand! Sadly it affects the next generation too. So anyway, I hope VY can get whatever help he needs. It appears he has a problem, but I am far too removed to know. I hope he can stop drinking.
     
  9. yelladawgdem

    yelladawgdem 2,500+ Posts

    It has been 36 years, 4 months and 23 days since my most recent drink. And I am still very much in my addiction. But through the grace of God and the fellowship of AA I have not had to get drunk today, or any day, since October 2, 1982. But I wake up every morning as an addict. And I go to bed every night as an addict. It is a disease with no known cure. Recovery is possiblle, on a daily basis.

    :texasflag:
     
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  10. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I know people who come from families that have alcoholics in them and have basically decided to never drink since that would be their only saving action.
     
  11. militaryhorn

    militaryhorn Prediction Contest Manager

    Just saw a headline that VY has been fired by UT for his DWI arrest.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  13. BabHorn

    BabHorn 10,000+ Posts

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  14. BabHorn

    BabHorn 10,000+ Posts

  15. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    IMHO he needs to stop --- right now, shut his yap, stop listening to lawyers, and salvage his legend. He still can. But not being like JFF.
     
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  16. Bill in Sinton

    Bill in Sinton 5,000+ Posts

    I think he will turn his life around and win us over.
     
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  17. El Sapo

    El Sapo Bevo's BFF

    Was surprised by the news but after some deliberation I support it and like the message it sends. No matter who you are, there will be accountability when you represent The University of Texas.
     
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  18. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    Unless you are Augie Garrido. :angry:
     
  19. El Sapo

    El Sapo Bevo's BFF

    Remind me? :whiteflag:
     
  20. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    The termination was not for the arrest but for a host of performance-related issues. Quite frankly, it sounds as though he was living on borrowed time even before the arrest (on a charge that STILL shows in Fort Bend records as 'unfiled').

    Even with a disposition that does not result in any finding of guilt, I don't see reinstatement occurring under the State's administrative review processes related to employee discipline. There had been too many counsel and reprimand incidents and it appears that VY was already on a probationary status that dated back more than a year, some related to what sounds like a lack of accountability for his time both in and out of the office.
     
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  21. BabHorn

    BabHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I hope you are right but there has been nothing to indicate that he is willing and able to put in the hard work necessary for this to happen.
     
  22. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    I'm very saddened to learn of this for VY... unfortunately he brought this on himself. I hope that some around him will work to get him some help. He can still turn this around if HE wants to and is willing to work to do it. I suspect he is broke and now with this firing there is no net.

    Genetically the key word is "predisposition". They are passed along.

    From what I have read humans do genetically inherit / gain / pass along predispositions to mental and physical conditons - including diseases.

    If you have a family with a history of cancer, diabetes, alcoholism, etc. it's not a guarentee you will have it / experence it, but you will have a greater predisposition than someone else without that family history. I think there are probably varying degrees of predisposition to certain things.
     
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  23. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    I'm not the right person to respond to the question. Unfortunately, I heard some pretty ugly things about AG a number of years ago that I tried to forget.
     
  24. El Sapo

    El Sapo Bevo's BFF

    Let's leave it at that then :hookem:
     
  25. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I was asked to forget rather than trying to do so.
     
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  26. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    For those so interested...case still shows as set for tomorrow. The Complaint and Information were formally filed yesterday. Vince has a pending charge of Obstruction of a Public Roadway. No reference to alcohol appears in the charging instrument.
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    mb
    thanks for the info
    I hope for the best for VY. I wish we could help him.

    I have to admit to a sinking feeling when I saw the thread at the top and hoped it was not a new charge.
     
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  28. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    I hope he gets it together. His life is far from over and he can still make something (more) of himself. Pulling for him.
     
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  29. Bill in Sinton

    Bill in Sinton 5,000+ Posts

    Lord please help our great quarterback. :(
     
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  30. EDT

    EDT 1,000+ Posts

    Former University of Texas star and Pro Bowl quarterback Vince Young's driving while intoxicated case was reduced Friday to a misdemeanor obstruction of a highway charge in Fort Bend County, according to court officials and his lawyer.

    A July court date is pending on the Class B misdemeanor.

    Young is being represented by Houston-based lawyer, Paul Doyle
     
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