What if it was not the Russians?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

  2. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Blah blah blah - Salem witch trials. The only crime is that Stone doesn’t kowtow to Mueller.
     
  3. Garmel

    Garmel 1,000+ Posts

    It's basically "we got Trump now" for the one zillionth time.
     
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  4. Garmel

    Garmel 1,000+ Posts

    Everybody, including journalists, were trying to get their hands on the Wikileaks info. It is not illegal to do so. The Stone indictment itself has nothing in there about collusion.
     
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  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Chris Christie? You counter with Chris Christie? First, what the hell does he know about any of this? Why is he an expert? He is speaking about generalities about other cases that he has worked on, not this one.

    Second, he isn't rich? A New Jersey attorney who was governor claims he isn't rich? Your honor the witness is unreliable.
     
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  6. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    Another example of someone, Christie, the Democrats and Liberals have loathed. Now, he is saying something those on the left like to hear, that a Trump advisor is in trouble, and by association they will get Trump. So, now Christie is someone they should listen to.

    Christie may be ticked as well that Trump didn't pick him for AG.
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  8. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Time to line up and give $$ to Roger Stone to pay his legal bills. ;)
     
  9. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    I'll write that check just after I send one to the Hillary 2020 fund.
     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Time to move the goal posts
    Hurry!

     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  12. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Happy President's Day
     
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  13. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Thanks Longest. Washington and Lincoln
    we could do worse
    and we have
    BUT not now:smokin:
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here Tucker Carlson deals with Michael Cohen

    Cohen was supposedly Trump's most trusted and intimate fixer, but now he HATES him.

    Under oath in live testimony, Cohen --
    -- destroyed their Prague lie
    -- destroyed their idea of blackmail leverage (hooker pee pee tapes) held by the Kremlin
    -- says he NEVER heard or saw any attempts to conspire with Russia over the election
    -- says he was NEVER told to lie to Congress

    The silence from the rest of the media over these facts is deafening.

     
  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Yeah, but Cohen did lend credence to the fact that he paid off Stormy to keep quiet. Not sure what the implications of that are. Don't think most Americans really care either, unless they just want Trump gone.
     
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Now we learn Cohen was shopping a book on how great Trump was weeks before he started saying what a bad man Trump is.
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, this should have been covered in testimony. I dont know if it was or not (since I didnt watch). But they should have -- the article exposing what was in the book draft was posted last Thurs

    President Donald Trump is not crazy. Nor is he dumb or paranoid. Certainly he is not in over his head. Is he a liar? Nope. And he is not addicted to TV either.

    Who says so? None other than Michael Cohen, the president's former lawyer and fixer who eviscerated Trump in three days of testimony before Congressional committees this week.

    Cohen's comments were in a book proposal that the jail-bound disbarred attorney was shopping around in the weeks before the FBI raided his offices last year. DailyMail.com has reviewed a copy of that proposal.

    At the time he had nothing but good things to say about his boss who had entered the White House a little more than a year earlier.

    Cohen was pushing a book with the working title 'Trump Revolution: From The Tower to The White House, Understanding Donald J. Trump,' that he proposed to write.

    He sent his book to several potential publishers last year, and one, Hachette, reportedly was willing to pay him three-quarters of a million dollars for his wise words....."

    Michael Cohen pitched book claiming Trump was not a liar | Daily Mail Online
     
  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I think the book was mentioned BUT not the gist of it for some reason. Why the Republicans didn't I do not understand.
    Cohen admitted he was shopping a book but turned down 750k for it.
     
  21. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 250+ Posts

    Ok think about it. This mueller investigation is much like cops and investigators breaking into your home looking for "possible crimes" to which to date no evidence exists. And, this investigation can lead to imprisonment of friends and coworkers.

    Kind of scary if you ask me. I thought Stalin style regimes didn't exist here
     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  23. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    In the USSR there were so many laws that everybody was guilty of breaking a couple without knowing it. That was the point, the authorities always had legal justification for calling you in. But they didn't as long as you went along with the Party.
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Just reading this last page is hilarious.
    Horn2Runagain made a good point
    :yippee:
    No collusion by Trump or any of his campaign.
    I guess it was NOT the Russians.
    :yippee::yippee::bounce2::yippee::yippee::bounce1::yippee:
     
  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I don't follow your logic. Just because there wasn't collusion doesn't mean Russia didn't do anything.
     
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  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    MrD
    The original premise was the Russians had affected the election in Trump's favor.
     
  28. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    They did try to do that, but not at Trump's behest.
     
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  29. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    The Russians have been trying to affect US politics for almost 100 years.

    The New Deal was Stalin's Communist system repackaged for American consumption by FDR's braintrust.

    The Red Scare in the 40s and 50s was real as there were Communists in high levels of the Democratic Party. Even Oliver Stone admitted as much in his HBO history special which tried to convince America that Harry Truman was too anti-USSR, that if only Harry Wallace who had ties to the USSR would have succeeded FDR, things would have been so much better.

    Pretty sure the NKVD had even more going on until 1991.
     
  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    They have definitely captured at least one member of this board.
     
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