What if it was not the Russians?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You've sought validation for years now of bias prompting the investigation. On multiple occasions (Rosenstein, Mueller and now Horowitz) have countered that narrative yet you still continue. You (along with Graham) trumpeted that the IG report would be that validation. It uncovered process errors but concluded they were not driven by bias and wouldn't have impacted any of the outcomes. You don't like that conclusion thus my Kermit meme above for you.

    From the report page 3:

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  2. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Not politically motivated? Then what exactly was the motivation, gross negligence? Riiiiight!
     
  3. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Avoiding the issue. Why didn’t they shut it down after receiving exculpatory info. Why did they deceive the FISA court? Why did Comey lie to Trump? I will tell you: the fbi is either crooked, biased, or dumb.
     
  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    A likely indictment for the lawyer that altered an email that was used to support a warrant application. It's the "spied on for no reason" I take issue with because Horowitz says the opposite in his report. Worse yet, 3 of the 4 are now felons that you defend. The bias is palpable.
     
  5. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
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  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Ahhh...you're getting all your info from John Solomon. Makes sense. He's been discredited more often than Sean Spicer's claims as Press Secretary.
     
  7. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
  8. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
  9. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    He's been discredited by the dishonest members of the press.
     
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  10. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You'll need to point me to the page you're referencing in the report. "exculpatory" is used 3 times in the report...all references to Carter Page.
     
  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Oh Jeezus. He was getting information from the "corrupt" Ukrainians, the ones everyone except for Guiliani and now apparently Nunes felt were corrupt.

    Solomon has been dumped by multiple media organizations for ethical challenges.
     
  13. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Stop lying. I never defended Manafort. I made one comment saying the prosecution was overplaying it’s hand.
     
  14. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Papadopoulos told the spies no one in Trump campaign was working with the Russians.
     
  15. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    Most of his info comes from transcripts where your media relies on anonymous sources. Most of the "corrupt Ukrainians" seem to be the ones that didn't want to play ball with the lefties or were tryng to actually do something about real corruption. Pretty soon Zelensky will be called corrupt by the leftist leaders.
     
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  16. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You admitted Manafort was dirty though you also tried to distance his investigation from Trump and railed on the prosecution being overzealous. Look at how many words you devoted to admitting Manafort's faults and how many against his prosecution and your bias will be transparent.
     
  17. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    You want to talk about other people's bias after what you said about Durham and Barr? You're way worse that mchammer and me.
     
  18. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Oh...you said "excuplatory" information for Papadopolous. I'm not sure that word means what you think it means.
     
  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I'll talk to you when you bring information of value to the conversation. Cite something, link something...bring something other than a talking point to discuss. Which FBI agent said what you claim?
     
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  20. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    I can only assume Husker is off on a drunken Hornfans posting bender today. Seems like every comment in my feed is directed at a non-existent (ignored) post.

    Poor bastard just can't win, can he?
     
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  21. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    Tell me again how Durham and Barr are going to help Trump save face?
     
  22. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts



    Whole thread is a good summary of the misdeeds plus the purview of the IG, particularly how IG can only report documentary evidence of bias.
     
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  23. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    7) Every one of these "issues" is a story all on its own. Example: The FBI had tapes of Page and Papadopoulos making statements that were inconsistent with FBI's own collusion theories. They did not provide these to the FISA court.
     
  24. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    This is down right crooked. Page has approval from CIA to befriend Russians, yet FBI only reports that he is friendly with Russians in the FISA application:

    9)And this: FBI failed to tell Court that Page was approved as an "operational contact" for another U.S. agency, and "candidly" reported his interactions with a Russian intel officer. FBI instead used that Russian interaction against Page, with no exculpatory detail.
     
  25. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Both Flynn and Papadopoulos gets indicted for process crimes after they were investigated under false premises:

    13) IG also slaps FBI for using what was supposed to be a baseline briefing for the Trump campaign of foreign intelligence threats as a surreptitious opportunity to investigate Flynn.
     
  26. mchammer

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  27. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Uh, the overzealous charges were either dropped or Manafort found not guilty. He was guilty in submitting false tax forms.
     
  28. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Evidently, I correctly reckoned that I needed such words to defend myself from future attacks by you.
     
  29. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Horowitz said there was a low hurdle. He didn’t say anything as to whether it was prudent or the product of bias since he can’t read minds (plus not allowed to speculate if there is no documentary evidence). So, no that is not the opposite of what I said.
     
  30. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Regarding these “process errors” that the IG concluded, is the FBI stupid, biased, or corrupt?
     

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