Who are you voting for in the Texas primary?

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  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    They're confusing their job with the Senate's job.
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  2. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I am way behind on this. What has Paxton done allegedly to deserve impeachment? Is there good evidence? I know nothing. Can anyone summarize in 3-4 sentences?
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    There are a few things involved, but it mostly centers around bribery and corruption involving a real estate developer (Nate Paul) he did favors for in his official capacity (in exchange for campaign money, decorating Paxton's home, and giving Paxton's skanky mistress a job) and retaliating against whistleblower employees who called him out, which is going to cost the taxpayers about $3 million to settle. In fact, Paxton's request for the House to fund the settlement is what prompted the impeachment inquiry back in March. PBS surprisingly has a decent explainer on it. Link. The full impeachment articles are here.

    My understanding of the evidence is that it's mostly based on witness testimony before the House General Investigating Committee, summarised here. Obviously, when the Senate trial is held, there's going to be a lot more. They may have live witnesses, and obviously Paxton will be able to controvert everything and try to explain away the $3M he requested from the taxpayer and the favours he did for his mistress (an affair he doesn't deny).

    One thing that's going to be interesting is that one of the Senators who will decide his fate will be his wife, Angela. She could recuse, and I don't think anyone would blame her if she did. If she doesn't recuse, would she go easy on him because he's her husband, or would she throw the book at him because he cheated on her? Hard to say.
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  4. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    The task is going to be proving up that issues in THE CURRENT TERM exist which rise to the level needed to remove.

    What occurred prior to THIS term is not relevant, by law.
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  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    By which law?
  6. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    I really have no opinion on this. I feel like I keep with current events every day but Im totally clueless on this. Ive seen Paxton many times give interviews and he always comes across as very competent and pro conservative values, but that doesnt mean he isn't guilty as hell either.
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  7. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    The “forgiveness doctrine” is only applicable when the public is fully aware of the transgressions at the time of the previous election

    most of this stuff was just rumor before And the doctrine is not statutory.
    He is a sleazy crook and even the sleazy legislature knows it

    it has to be pretty bad to embarrass those critters
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  8. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts


    While this is a total embarrassment to The Great Republic, there is some humor in watching the freeloaders in the house squirm. The "kickback was supposed to be more than this" democrats are deliriously happy with an elected Republican being impeached and the party suffering through the negative press, they are hiding in a corner trying to come up with a defense if they are "next".

    I'm pretty sure that "you expect to keep up when I have to work two weeks every 24 months" will not fly before a real grand jury. Then again, this is Travis County. When was the last time Travis County had a real grand jury?
  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    An article explaining the "forgiveness doctrine" written by a South Texas College of Law professor.
  10. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, and his buddies in Collin County are running scared of all of the dems who are moving in. In addition, his Texas Senator wife's district is turning bluer every day.
  11. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    Damn. Just noticed she only won that seat by 3 pts in 2018. Is it really turning blue or was that bc of the (then) beto effect?
  12. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Unfortunately no. All of the California and New Yorker carpetbaggers are invading Collin and Denton Counties and moving in on Grayson County.
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  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Probably a bit of both. Beta was strong in the suburbs, and it was a midterm election with a Republican president. But in addition, the suburbs in Texas are going the way of suburbs in other states like Arizona and Georgia. Lots of voters from failing blue states are moving in, and they're bringing their crackpot views on social issues and voting accordingly. Lots of Asian immigrants are moving in and voting Democratic. Of course, Collin County has long been wealthy and well-educated, but back in the day, that meant conservative and almost always religious families. It's still families, but they're far more secular, so instead of the wealthy white moms taking their kids to soccer games and Vacation Bible School like they did when I was a kid, they're taking them to drag queen shows and Pride events.

    Even beyond that, the ethnic mix is changing. For example, consider Plano Senior High School, where I graduated in 1994. Compare what the ethnic mix was when I graduated to what it is now. I drive by when I visit my parents, and though the school looks the same, the student body looks far more like that of a school in California. No area like this going to stay solidly red. It's remarkable that they still elect Republicans at all.

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  14. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    665.081 of the Texas Government Code.
  15. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's a terribly and laughably drafted statute as I'd expect from the Texas Legislative Council. Hard to believe the taxpayers pay for these lawyers. It's not an easy job, and I understand that, but they are atrocious at times.

    "An officer in this state may not be removed from office for an act the officer may have committed before the officer's election to office."

    Which election, and which office? The most recent election? That would be 2022. Election to Attorney General? That would be 2014. Election to any office? That would be 2002, when he got first got elected to the Texas House.

    And does this statute apply to officers whose removal is statutory or constitutional? The Texas Supreme Court has suggested the prior.
  16. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    As has been told me several times by a long time plano resident "ok. Now tell me what the demo for private , charter, home schools are here".

    His point has been that the demo has changed, but not as drastically as some like to believe
  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I guess it depends on what one means by "drastic," but that's pretty drastic to me.
  18. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    Without accurate statistics you don't know if it's drastic. You're working off public school data only. Incomplete data = wrong data
  19. guy4321

    guy4321 1,000+ Posts

    If Paxton is removed, does the gov appoint a replacement until the next election?
  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I don't claim it to be perfect, but it's not irrelevant either. It gives you a look at where the city is likely heading. If you look at the whole city, it's about 58 percent white now. That's not indicative of a Republican stronghold anymore.
  21. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think so. I know he appoints a replacement while Paxton is suspended.

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