ShAARK, I wasn't referring to just the players. The Strong had no management skills at all so the entirety of the football program sank further and further into the abyss. Yes, the lack of AD leadership didn't help, but the responsibility for managing the football program was Strong's as the Head Coach. The ability to run the football program and coach at the same time is what separates successful Power 5 HC's from all other HC's in all other classifications. Unlike Strong, Herman knows what to do for both the program and HC duties, but does not know how to do it. The facility improvements he designed are bringing Texas up to the top level of Power 5 facilities, but his football team is rudderless. They play hard, but you have to play hard and smart with the smart piece coming mainly from the coordinators. Bad coordinators bring bad results.