Who or what is the Beast in Revelation?

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  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

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  3. Driver 8

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    There used to be interesting engagement on these topics around here
     
  4. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Yeah. Somethings things perk up a bit for a while still.
     
  5. Monahorns

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  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    It became less relevant after Hillary lost (devil incarnate).
     
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  7. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Plenty of problems with, say, the Credit Score system or the Federal Reserve, but reading that as being The Beast (with some side ads for the author's favorite cryptocurrencies) seems like a huge stretch of logic to read the desired conclusion into the text. Too bad as it started out promising.
     
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  8. SabreHorn

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    I have said two things for years - the anti-Christ is Vladimir Putin.

    Only one person he was afraid of and that was George H W Bush. Once Bush was gone, start practicing your Russian.
     
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  9. Monahorns

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    For clarification, I am not saying those things ARE the beast. I am saying they are in the mold or type of what we read about in Revelation. Maybe precursors, maybe not. I am not being dogmatic about it.

    My point about cryptocurrencies also isn't about bitcoin per se, it is about building parallel systems that exist outside of the current centrally planned and controlled systems.

    Sorry it didn't end as well as it started. Can I ask, what was promising about the start maybe I can think more about some things.
     
  10. Monahorns

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    I don't think we are close to seeing who the anti-Christ is, but Putin is just a petty dictator who threatens no one outside of Russia.
     
  11. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    For two thousand years every generation has those who identify this mythical critter with some contemporary baddie

    Hillary, Putin are latest iterations. Some kid still in diapers whining to his mom about a rash this morning will be perceived as such in a few decades

    I am more concerned with the cable guy getting me up for an 11 am kickoff
     
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  12. Monahorns

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    Are you saying that I have tried to identify the beast in the current day? If you haven't read the article please go back and do. I'm not trying to do that. I am identifying patterns and suggesting courses of action for Christians to take to prepare.

    Definitely Hillary and Putin don't fit the bill. No idea who does.
     
  13. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Back in the early 2000's I was asked to teach on Daniel and Revelations. Whew, that was tough. I would think the central bank digital currency system if it is rolled out with a digital ID chip (ID2020), to be inserted into your wrist or head. That would fit the bill for Revelation prophecy that money would be cashless, and ID scans would be part of it. I believe how money is transacted will be a part of this mark of the beast. I have "heard" vaccine marks and things like that. I choose to pray and hold on to my faith. It doesn't matter how Satan tries to do us in, what matters is resisting this. I am very disheartened by the sin and hatred we are now seeing from most Politicians and public figures, many are supposed to be leaders. I believe truly, the sin and corruption is far worse than most can even imagine. That is why the Media can pull the wool over so many peoples eyes. Most of us cannot imagine the level of sin and corruption already here on this Earth with us. Below is a good article about the modern day "money changers". Jesus pushed over their tables and ran them out of business in front of the temple. Well, there at it again and it is far worse this time around! I am referring to the Central Bank families that control all of the money supply on the Earth. There are only 13 families. That is where the sin begins and ends! Below is an article about this:

    Becoming a Cashless Society—A Financial Sign of the End Times
     
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  14. SabreHorn

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    It's "Revelation"
     
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  15. Statalyzer

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    Given the political dominance and tyranny of the Beast, wouldn't he be likely to use centrally-planned and tightly-controlled systems?
     
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  16. Monahorns

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    Yes, absolutely. But we know from Scripture that a person can't buy or sell without accepting the Mark of the Beast. That means the person can't buy food, so if there is no way to feed yourself outside of the Beast's system, then all the Christians die pretty quick. However, some survive through that time period, which means there must have been some kind of black market in existence which provided for their needs.

    What I am saying is that those black markets, parallel systems, don't get spring up from nothing. Christians need to stat building them at some point. To do that you need a parallel currency of some kind.
     
  17. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Bitcoin, and having land to grow food on.
     
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  18. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    It's my predisposition to expect the fate of the world to be in the hands of people who look like my family.... an amalgam of fair skinned, red headed, blondes, brunets and other caucasian looking folks. But look at what is happening with China with its burgeoning economy, corrupt all-powerful government and sophisticated artificial intelligence repression. The Beast may not be a Westerner. For all the folks who see Trump, Hillary, Obama and Biden as the antichrist... the scariest, most powerful villain on the world stage looks a lot more like Winnie the Pooh.
     
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  19. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Good thoughts. We always picture people we see on a day to day basis. Who knows where the Beast/AntiChrist will come from.

    Part of me suspects Jewish just because of the how central Israel is in end times things. From the Bible we know he makes a political treaty and becomes repsonsible for a temple in Jerusalem. But then he suspends temple worship. So either Jewish or a people group described by the other descriptions in the Bible like Roman, Babylonian, or Greek. In history a Greek king and then a Roman general defiled the temple. The Beast will do the same thing.
     

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