Winter Workouts 2017

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Godz40acres, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    First time in what feels like forever that our O-line is experienced.
     
  2. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Time for those juniors who were supposed to be quality recruits to start stepping up. We're starting to see the basis for some quality depth, but it's not there yet. We'll see what the offseason and spring do for them.
     
  3. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    RS FR DT Chris Daniels has a message for new DC Todd Orlando....

     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I been arguing for OL depth and a redshirt program for OLs for what seems like forever now.
     
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  5. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah we've had a hell of a time keeping OL guys from dirtying their jerseys in meaningless snaps. Finally we have Hudson and others who will come into camp with a sense of purpose and could even unseat guys like McMillon.

    Also, Gary Johnson is going to steal someone's spot. If that means moving Jefferson to a pass rush spot or Wheeler to the 3rd LB option, Johnson will be out there.
     
  6. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

     
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  7. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    One of the stories that the media and the fans will be following when it comes to Texas football is will RS Junior Jerrod Heard stay at WR or move to back to QB? It remains to be seen what will officially happen but it’s worth noting that Herman’ most recent offenses were led by elite athletes like Greg Ward, Braxton Miller, and JT Barrett.

    What I can tell you guys is that I was told Heard has still been working with the skill guys (WR/RB) during offseason workouts.

    Obviously things can change when spring football begins in less than a month from now, but that’s what I know as of today.
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  9. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    E$PN produced their "10 teams with the toughest nonconference schedules in 2017" list and it's amazing the stretches they make to justify the $ec teams in the group. I'm calling "click-bait" on this piece.

    1. Pitt Panthers
    • Sept. 2: Youngstown State
    • Sept. 9: at Penn State
    • Sept. 16: Oklahoma State
    • Sept. 30: Rice
    The Panthers get the nod for the No. 1 spot because they're the only Power 5 school that has to play two top-10 teams in Mark Schlabach's updated Way-Too-Early Top 25. Not only that, but good luck in finding a more challenging nonconference swing in back-to-back weeks than on the road at No. 5 Penn State and then coming back home and tangling with No. 10 Oklahoma State. [T]he Nittany Lions will be especially motivated after losing to the Panthers a year ago.

    2. Florida Gators
    • Sept. 2: vs. Michigan in Arlington, Texas
    • Sept. 9: Northern Colorado
    • Nov. 18: UAB
    • Nov. 25: Florida State
    The Gators have in-state rival Florida State to deal with every year, an annual affair against a perennial top opponent that caps the regular season. The Seminoles should be as talented as they've been under Jimbo Fisher next season and check in at No. 2 in the latest Way-Too-Early Top 25. But what really makes this a killer nonconference slate for the Gators is the opener against No. 14 Michigan in the Cowboys Classic at AT&T Stadium. It will mark the first time since 1991 that the Gators have left the state of Florida to play a nonconference game.

    3. Florida State Seminoles
    • Sept. 2: vs. Alabama in Atlanta
    • Sept. 9: Louisiana-Monroe
    • Nov. 18: Delaware State
    • Nov. 25: at Florida
    Give the Seminoles their props. They've never been squeamish when it comes to playing a challenging nonconference schedule. In 2017, they open the season against No. 1 Alabama in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game in Atlanta, a heavyweight matchup that could serve as a precursor to a clash we could see again later in the year in the College Football Playoff. There's also a season-ending trip to face Florida. Think the Gators are aware that the Seminoles last lost in the Swamp in 2009?

    4. Texas Longhorns
    • Sept. 2: Maryland
    • Sept. 9: San Jose State
    • Sept. 16: at USC
    Tom Herman's "reward" in his first season as Texas' coach is a trip to the West Coast to face No. 3 USC in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. That game is the third week of the season, and the Longhorns can always hope they get the version of the Trojans we saw last September and not the version we saw the second half of the season. The opener against Maryland also won't be easy, especially with the Terrapins riding the kind of recruiting momentum they haven't enjoyed in years.

    5. USC Trojans
    • Sept. 2: Western Michigan
    • Sept. 16: Texas
    • Oct. 21: at Notre Dame
    The Trojans hope to pick up right where they left off last season, and they had better bring their A-game to the opener against a Western Michigan club that won 13 games a year ago, played in the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic and returns several key players. Two weeks later, Texas comes to the L.A. Coliseum, and even though it will be Herman's first season in Austin, he inherits a roster that's plenty talented. We'll see how much Notre Dame bounces back in 2017, but it's never a picnic playing in South Bend.

    6. Georgia Bulldogs
    • Sept. 2: Appalachian State
    • Sept. 9: at Notre Dame
    • Sept. 16: Samford
    • Nov. 25: at Georgia Tech
    If the Dawgs are thinking about easing their way into the 2017 season, they might want to ask Tennessee about Appalachian State. The Vols were extremely fortunate to beat the Mountaineers in the opener a year ago. The second week features a trip to Notre Dame, and while the Irish were one of the biggest disappointments in college football last season, they won't be down two years in a row. And to end the season, there's bitter rival Georgia Tech, which has won two of the past three games in the series.

    7. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
    • Sept. 4: vs. Tennessee
    • Sept. 9: Jacksonville State
    • Sept. 16: at UCF
    • Nov. 25: Georgia
    The good news for the Yellow Jackets is that they have to leave the state of Georgia only once in their nonconference slate, and that's to face UCF. But they start the season against Tennessee in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game in Atlanta at Mercedes-Benz Stadium and then close the year at home against Georgia, a pair of SEC teams that need big seasons in 2017.

    8. South Carolina Gamecocks
    • Sept. 2: vs. N.C. State in Charlotte, N.C.
    • Sept. 23: Louisiana Tech
    • Nov. 18: Wofford
    • Nov. 25: Clemson
    The Gamecocks have fared well in Charlotte in season-opening games and get North Carolina State to open the 2017 season in the Belk College Kickoff Game. The Wolfpack finished last season strongly and will be looking for bigger things in Year No. 5 under Dave Doeren. A few weeks later in September, Louisiana Tech is one of those teams you dread having to play, especially right before a trip to Texas A&M, and the Gamecocks end the season against defending national champion and No. 6 Clemson.

    9. Oklahoma State Cowboys
    • Sept. 2: Tulsa
    • Sept. 9: at South Alabama
    • Sept. 16: at Pittsburgh
    While Tulsa did lose several key players on offense from a year ago, the Golden Hurricane won 10 games and finished tied for sixth nationally in scoring offense (42.5 points per game). The next two weeks, Oklahoma State hits the road. South Alabama isn't a big name, but it did win at Mississippi State last season. And as long as Pat Narduzzi is at Pitt, the Panthers are always going to be a tough out. They beat Clemson and Penn State last season.

    10. Clemson Tigers
    • Sept. 2: Kent State
    • Sept. 9: Auburn
    • Nov. 18: The Citadel
    • Nov. 25: at South Carolina
    The Auburn game on the Plains was a tight one a year ago, and the scene shifts to Death Valley in 2017. Ranked No. 11 in the Way-Too-Early Top 25, Auburn should have even more firepower on offense with quarterback newcomer Jarrett Stidham and will once again be a load on defense. South Carolina also has upgraded its talent level under Will Muschamp, making that trip to face the rival Gamecocks even more dangerous for the Tigers, who've lost three of their past four games in Columbia.
     
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  10. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    I really enjoyed this interview with Coach Drayton on the NSD broadcast. Lots to offer.

     
  11. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Ever notice that SEC teams like Bama, Auburn, Aggy, etc., seem to never make the top ten toughest schedules for a season?
     
  12. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Bama does. They have typically scheduled at least one marquee opponent in their nonconference schedule.
     
  13. p_town_horn

    p_town_horn 1,000+ Posts

    A&M, Baylor, and Texas Tech will never crack this list. They likely wouldn't crack the top 100 toughest schedules
     
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  14. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    SEC builds in midseason FCS teams for slaughter to ensure that teams who would have otherwise gone 6-6 or 7-5 (like A&M) get an extra win to pad their bowl resumes and get a higher selection priority.

    Bama should schedule 2 more teams like Florida State to make up for adding Mercer to their schedule for next year.
     
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Did Hook’em win the Beyoncé costume contest?

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  16. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    The $EC late season FCS/low FBS games would not be a factor if the $EC played 9 Conference games like the other Power 5 Conferences now that the B1G has changed and eliminated all FCS games.
     
  17. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    They got it right...
     
  18. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    E$PN ranks Big 12 teams by QB and RB groups....

    QB

    1. ou: Snowflake Mayfield might be the top returning quarterback in college football. He's twice finished in the top five of the Heisman Trophy voting and broke the FBS passing efficiency season record last season. The Sooners have depth behind him, too, with Austin Kendall and former Texas A&M transfer Kyler Murray both returning.

    2. Oklahoma State: With 28 career starts, Mason Rudolph will enter 2017 as one of the most experienced passers in the country. Among quarterbacks who also threw for 4,000 yards last season, Rudolph threw the fewest interceptions (four).

    3. Kansas State: Jesse Ertz was among the most improved players in the Big 12 during the second half of last season as he quietly finished third in the league in QBR. Ertz was the only Big 12 QB to rush for more than 1,000 yards last season, as well.

    4. TCU: If [Kenny Hill] can find consistency, Hill has the talent to be among the top quarterbacks in the league. The future of the position is in good shape, with TCU signing ESPN 300 dual-threat QB Shawn Robinson last week.

    5. Texas: Shane Buechele's freshman season got off to an incredible start as he torched Notre Dame in his first career game. But Buechele faded down the stretch in conference play as Texas failed to reach a bowl, leading to Charlie Strong's firing. Buechele might still be Texas' QB of the future. But he'll have to prove it by beating out Austin native Sam Ehlinger, who was one of the country's top QB signees last week.

    6. West Virginia: This ranking... will hinge on Will Grier being the same quarterback he was those first six games as a freshman at Florida. After backing up Skyler Howard last season, Chris Chugunov figures to be the favorite... to do the same behind Grier this fall.

    7. Bailor: Zach Smith struggled last year as a freshman but he had a breakout performance in Bailor's bowl game in the rout of Boise State. The QB battle between Smith and Arizona transfer Anu Solomon will be one of the more interesting ones in the conference.

    8. Texas Tech:
    [T]he reins of the Tech air raid will be handed over to Nic Shimonek. The Iowa transfer shined in his lone significant action last season, throwing four second-half touchdowns in a victory over Kansas.

    9. Iowa State:
    After taking over the starting spot from Joel Lanning, Jacob Park played well, throwing 12 touchdowns to just five interceptions. Back as well, Lanning gives Iowa State an experienced backup and a change-of-pace, run-first option behind center.

    10. Kansas:
    The Jayhawks... are in better shape at quarterback than they have been in some time. Carter Stanley gave the offense a spark after taking over... late in the season. But the one to watch will be former Washington State QB Peyton Bender, who arrives in Lawrence as the No. 3 juco QB in the country.

    RB

    1. West Virginia:
    Justin Crawford is the Big 12's leading returning rusher after a 1,184-yard junior season that earned Offensive Newcomer of the Year honors. Kennedy McKoy was one of the conference's more productive freshman backs in 2016 and Martell Pettaway showed his potential.

    2. TCU:
    No returning Big 12 running back put up more total yards from scrimmage than Kyle Hicks. His production (1,459 total yards, 14 TDs), versatility and leadership are invaluable for the Frogs. The return of Shaun Nixon gives their offense a serious boost.

    3. Bailor:
    Lost in Bailor's late-season swoon was all the attention Terence Williams should've earned. He rumbled for 1,048 yards and 11 TDs as a sophomore.

    4. Oklahoma State:
    The most productive freshman running back in college football last season was Justice Hill. He was truly the Cowboys' missing piece on offense. Hill needs some help, though, after three seniors graduated.

    5. Texas:
    When Chris Warren III gets 100 percent healthy from the season-ending knee injury he suffered, the 250-pounder will be one of the Big 12's most dangerous running backs. The question is who will back him up? Kyle Porter, Kirk Johnson and ESPN 300 signee Toneil Carter will compete this spring, and Tom Herman called Daniel Young the steal of their recruiting class.

    6. Kansas State:
    If Alex Barnes can become the Wildcats' consistent leader at running back, they'll move up this list. He averaged 7.9 yards per carry and produced two 100-yard games to end his redshirt freshman year, but Barnes received more than 10 carries in a game just once in 2016.

    7. Iowa State:
    If Mike Warren gets back to playing like he did in 2015, the Cyclones have all they need for a potent run game. Warren has a lot to prove after a disappointing sophomore season, and David Montgomery and Kene Nwangwu will keep pushing him.

    8. ou:
    Abdul Adams, Rodney Anderson, Trey Sermon, Marcelias Sutton, Kennedy Brooks. One or more of these guys will be the Sooners' next big star at running back, and several others need to make significant contributions in 2017. Sermon and Sutton coming in as midyear enrollees ensures OU will have some fierce competition in spring ball.

    9. Texas Tech:
    Da'Leon Ward came on late in the season as a true freshman, which was encouraging, but here's the problem: Ward, Demarcus Felton and Justin Stockton combined to average 78 rushing yards per game last year. [P]erhaps junior college transfer Desmond Nisby can become the power back the Red Raiders lack.

    10. Kansas:
    Incoming signees Octavius Matthews (E$PN's No. 1 ranked juco RB) and Dominic Williams have an opportunity to make a serious impact right away for the Jayhawks. They'll compete with Taylor Martin and Khalil Herbert, who played limited roles in 2016, as well as former Arkansas transfer Denzell Evans.
     
  19. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Interesting that they didn't say that the special snowflake is only 1-2 against Texas.
     
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  20. Galvestonhorn

    Galvestonhorn 250+ Posts

    and very easily should be 0-3
     
  21. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    Not much love for Tech. Will next year be Kliffy's last?
     
  22. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    Tom Herman Aint Messing Around

    Spoke to a source regarding coach Tom Herman’s demeanor in practice this week and it sounds like any honeymoon period is over. I’m told Herman has been extremely involved in the coaching and extremely intense this week. To put it very mildly, he’s been challenging the manhood of the players and, again to put it mildly, demanding that they step up to that challenge…sometimes make such ‘requests’ with some colorful language. The source said that one player actually had the guts to miss a class…that didn’t go well. “After what happened to him, the players were pretty much like, we’re never missing a class.”
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  23. Galvestonhorn

    Galvestonhorn 250+ Posts

    Im surprised he didnt lock the entire team out of locker room for that one player that missed a class. And throw an oversized logging chain and lock on the door for good measure.

    He knows exactly what he's doing and how to get 100% attention from his team. I also liked what the RB coach said the other day.....The skill set is there and in the room.

    Its going to be enjoyable around here for the first time in about 7 years.
     
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  24. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

    Just love Coach Herman's attention to details ... I read an ESPN article about facility upgrades in the works because of Coach Herman.
     
  25. Godz40acres

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  27. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    This is brutal when does spring ball start again
     
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  28. Godz40acres

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    This is an excellent discussion by the IT guys. They first talk about the offensive fits from the current roster for coming Herman-O; then they finish by focusing on the new class and all of its "fits" for both the new O and D.

     
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  29. Godz40acres

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    Okay, I'm ready to fire The Hermanator. He's hired the best and brightest media minds (supposedly) and they're giving me zippo info about the Winter Workouts. Even the media aren't reporting anything but 2018 recruiting. 20stinking18 RECRUITING! The players aren't even tweeting about their workouts! This is unprecedented.

    The Longhorn Football world isn't revolving around me anymore and I'm enraged! I've just got one thing to say to Tommy Boy....

     
  30. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    Okay, here's the latest video but it doesn't help much.

     
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