I want this topic to focus specifically on hardware reliability issues. Right now I have an xbox 360. It recently got the 3 rings of death. I've been able to keep it going temporarily by using the towel trick, but its a real pain in the ***. On top of that, its started scratching my CDs rendering them permanently damaged and unusable. So I'm looking into buying either another xbox 360 or a ps3. I will consider buying another xbox ONLY under the following circumstances: 1) MIcrosoft changed their hardware and eliminated the 3 rings of death in the newer models 2) Microsoft fixed their laser/CD tray so that it doesnt scratch disks anymore. Can somebody who's bought a newer Xbox 360 verify that these things have occurred? Or is it still a crap shoot whether your machine gets the 3 red lights or scratches disks? For PS3 users, I want to hear your horror stories. So far I've only heard about some AV compatibility issues, but nothing that causes the PS3 to crash permanently or scratches your disks permanently. Can PS3 users verify this? Also I've heard that some versions of PS3 are not backwards compatible with PS2. Any truth to that? As for games, I really like SOCOM. Unfortunately I hear that the new SOCOM: Confrontation is multiplayer online ONLY, which kinda sucks. The other games I like are COD4, NCAA Football, and Madden which should come out on both platforms. For PS3 users: how is the online experience? One thing I really like about xbox is that generally its a great online experience. Dropping connections to servers is pretty rare, and gamespeed is good (not very much lag). Does PS3 online multiplayer have lots of lag issues or connectivity problems? How does the speed of Xbox live games compare to PS3 online games? Any noticeable difference? One last question: for PS3 online, are there lots of people online to play with for games like COD4, Madden, NCAA? Or is it noticeably less crowded than xbox?