You only get so many timeouts

Discussion in 'Men’s Basketball' started by Max Powers, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. Max Powers

    Max Powers 100+ Posts

    Who else was thinking this when Aaron Bruce called the timeout for Baylor?
    The Link

    AJ only made 1 of 2, but in the end who cares...
  2. baylorbear245

    baylorbear245 100+ Posts

  3. l00p

    l00p 10,000+ Posts

    I did not click on the link but assume it is of Chris "timeout" Weber.
  4. Bob in Houston

    Bob in Houston 2,500+ Posts

    I don't see where the extra timeout was a big deal.

    Instead, it would have been a turnover, and at that point, there would have been a foul, and someone would have hit one of two.

    A couple of seconds difference is all.

    Now, under the rules in effect when Webber did his, it was a big deal, because that was two shots and the ball.
  5. SomeMildLanguage

    SomeMildLanguage 500+ Posts

    It SHOULD be two shots and the ball. Otherwise, there's a perverse incentive to call a timeout even when you don't have one to call.
  6. BurntOrange03

    BurntOrange03 100+ Posts

  7. LagoHorn

    LagoHorn 250+ Posts

    from the video "That will give North Carolina 2 shots and the ball."

    When did this rule change? Or did the refs blow yet another call in that game?
  8. RollingwoodHorn

    RollingwoodHorn 500+ Posts

  9. CleverNickname

    CleverNickname 500+ Posts

    Lets say you are down 1. No timeouts. In bounds. 5.. 4.. 3... 2... 1... The defense is smoothering. A pass is a certain turnover. Timeout. Two shots, at worst down by 3. And since its a technical, for some reason the refs give the coaches a chance to huddle up and draw up the perfect 3 pt shot.
  10. Bob in Houston

    Bob in Houston 2,500+ Posts

  11. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    Strange situation. I didn't know the rule had been changed. It is almost worth it to intentionally commit this infraction at times, and this was one of them. It really didn't hurt Baylor, might have helped them.
  12. uisge beatha

    uisge beatha 1,000+ Posts

    I wasn't aware of the rule change. When he called the TO, I thought the game was over 'cause we'd get the ball. And noone I talked to today realized the rule had changed
  13. SomeMildLanguage

    SomeMildLanguage 500+ Posts

    "Why do they so often change rules that don't need changing?" is the question here.

    What is the rule if you are in bounds with the ball and call timeout? A technical foul and a turnover? Or a technical foul but you get to keep the ball?

    The Chris Webber moment is such an important moment in college basketball history, it's strange that they would change this rule.
  14. SL Xpress

    SL Xpress 500+ Posts

    There is no doubt I would have rather Texas get the ball in that situation from a 5 second call, than get 2 free throws with Baylor then having a fresh 5 seconds to inbound the ball.

    I went a little ballistic in the stands, but Barnes was calm and composed, so I assumed the refs must have got the call right.

    Of course, with the way Texas was inbounding the ball, it might have been a case of "be careful what you wish for."

    Still, bad rule.
  15. DRAG69

    DRAG69 1,000+ Posts

    I think the rule now is a technical is a 2 shot foul but the ball goes to whomever had the ball at the time of the technical. The only exception to this is a flagrant foul or an intentional foul. I think in both of these instances the team that is fouled gets two free throws and the ball.

    But hell I don't have a clue if I am right.
  16. Jeevsie

    Jeevsie 100+ Posts

    Just love the fact that that will forever be "pulling a Webber."
  17. ghost

    ghost 500+ Posts

    Bruce had a rough week with that bonehead play and then then fouling the 3pt shooter against OU last night. He cost his team again.
  18. BaylorPilot

    BaylorPilot 25+ Posts

    i really feel sorry for him. its got to be hard to walk around campus now.
  19. SL Xpress

    SL Xpress 500+ Posts

    I feel sorry for him that he plays for Scott Drew.

    It'll be interesting to see if Drew gets another kid from Australia any time soon. They've already lost Matok.
  20. DKR777

    DKR777 250+ Posts

  21. SomeMildLanguage

    SomeMildLanguage 500+ Posts

    If Bruce doesn't call a timeout, it's a 5-second call. UT ball. Texas then inbounds the ball. Dribbles. Time goes off the clock. Baylor fouls. Texas shoots freethrows. Baylor gets the ball back. Baylor has to then advance the ball all the way up the court, wasting more time.

    Calling timeout under the new rules helped them because, instead of giving UT the ball and having to foul a UT player after time has elapsed, they got the ball right back without any time ticking off the clock. Moreover, Baylor got the ball back under their own basket rather than under UT's basket, saving even more time.

    It's pretty clear why a technical foul in that instance was better than a 5 second call. Just think it through.

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