in terms of college basketball, I believe the biggest choke job was that guy throwing the ball to James Worthy in the championship game. In terms of coaching college basketball, I vote for Guy Lewis in 1983 running the slowdown offense too early against NC State. In terms of officiating college basketball, that 4.5 second call tonight goes up against the USSR vs. USA in 1972, but I didn't actually see that one just watched highlights of that. What happened with Teddy Valentine several years ago? I've already forgotten what Teddy did.
That's a made-up rule by the TV crew. NCAA Rulebook 2009-11: Rule 4.68.5: "A thrower-in shall have five seconds from receiving disposal of the ball to release the throw-in. The throw-in count shall end when the ball is released by the thrower-in so that the ball goes directly into the playing court." There is no 4-second rule. If the refs have all agreed that there is, then they're not following their own rules. If it's an "unwritten" thing that they have to not use a timeout in the last split second, then write that into the rules.
I've seen plenty of teams call and get rewarded a TO between 4 and 5 seconds. Most of the time that TO comes from the bench and not the guy inbounding the ball, but that shouldn't matter.
I was only going on what was said on the post game from the Longhorn announcers. I did pull up the NCAA PDF of the rules and there is no provision that says a timeout cannot be called. So, I was wrong. Sorry about that.
how about last night in the butler/pitt game. those were two of the most boneheaded fouls ive seen in a game ever.
yeah, those were bad chokes, and as I calm down, I really do understand that Hamilton was probably told to call timeout, and as I analyze the situation, that ref. that screwed up a 5 second count, he was being PAID to do a job that he had been TRAINED for... There is no excuse, that guy should be fined his game check, and not allowed to officiate any postseason games for about 3 years. Barnes and Deloss should file an official protest, and then the head of the NCAA officiating should go on the air and admit the call was wrong.
I don't think it was a choke, I think you saw a team with a lot of young players make some young mistakes early to put us in a hole, and aside from JB we don't have a guy willing to step up with the game on the line. (CJ had been doing it, but the game really seemed bigger than him today.) The last seconds were tough to take, but they didn't reflect a choke. They reflected a solid team with some holes that caught up with them today.
I don't think our players choked. I think they did what they were told. I mean Hamilton calling the time out. I think that decision was a bench decision. And I think Joseph called time out before five seconds. I think the ref blew it. The time out call puzzles me. Why is Barnes not willing to let hamilton shoot two free throws. If he makes one we are in great shape. If he makes two we win the game, period. If TT catches it then I can understand the time out. Oh well.
Jordan Hamilton sure did choke. He called an unnecessary timeout instead of just letting the guy foul him. Then to compound matters, he gives up a 3 pt play on a terrible attempt at a charge. He choked. Good luck in the league. Later.
The attempt at drawing the charge has not been discussed enough. That was an unbelievably bone-headed play. The refs are not going to make a foul call at the end to decide the game (see J'Covan Brown's driving layup and GJohnson's follow up) unless you give the refs no choice because of egregious contact. The refs HAD to make a call on Williams's drive. Hamilton gave them no choice.
and the other thing not discussed at all, why was Hamilton in the game at that point? Remember, as soon as Rick saw that we had blown the throw-in he turns to somebody and sends in a substitution. Even though it was a turnover and we didn't get the timeout, why leave Hamilton in there for defense when everybody knows he is our worst defender? And of course it is a boneheaded move to try to take a charge instead of just playing as hard a D as possible, by taking a charge you're being passive. Worst case possible should have been whoever was guarding the guy to play hard D, foul him and the guy makes two shots to tie, then we try a last-second shot and we go to overtime.
There were three calls that all went Arizona's way down the stretch. The phantom 5 second call was bad, but understandable. The referee could assume Texas could still defend, and then we had zero answer for a pick-and-roll, that is on Barnes and crew. But then on JCovan's drive and Gary Johnson's rebound, both were clobbered, had their arms held, and no call. I'd assume the bad fouls that decided the Butler/Pitt game the day prior factored in, and the referees didn't want to make decisive calls. But those were blatant muggings. Still, would any of us really wanted the pain of watching Gary miss tow free throws to give Arizona the win? There is absolutely no way Gary makes two freebies in that situation. We can at least agree with that. The very best we do is OT, and I'd bet he missed both. I know Texas free throw shooters.
dead horse, I know, but not really, I think: Hamilton on D with the game on the line? Seriously? Nobody had fouled out, we had already been substituting offense and defense. Nobody has offered any reason for this. Just think if Williams goes to the line to have to shoot two free throws to tie, we get to inbound again, if he makes it.
