Oregon

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by ViperHorn, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Interesting article on Oregon v. NCAA: Link

    IMHO Oregon shoots itself in the foot with the statement "Football staff members were not aware that the manner in which they were using scouting/recruiting services was impermissible,". Being ignorant of the rules circles back to lack of institutional control which is one of the major NCAA infractions.

    Obviously the NCAA suspects payola in excess of the "pay for services" to Lyles and the other two services, but cannot find the smoking gun. If one of the recruits in question suddenly finds religion, Oregon is literately a dead duck.
     
  2. Mr. Fiesta

    Mr. Fiesta 1,000+ Posts

    Cheaters And everyone was wondering how Oregon got so good all of a sudden and why anyone would go there in the first place.
     
  3. l00p

    l00p 10,000+ Posts

    We have fans who compared them to us and wondered why we were not up when they were. Add them to the other programs close to our success who will be on probation.
     
  4. bck031

    bck031 1,000+ Posts

    Maybe this is why Kelly left for the eagles. Kind of like Carroll.
     
  5. Laphroaig10

    Laphroaig10 1,000+ Posts


     
  6. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts


     
  7. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Oregon=Knight=Nike= slap on the wrist. Lots of smoke and mirrors out of NCAA just like USC, but when all is said and done, very little real bitchslap.

    USC got a tap (not slap) on the wrist. I will never understand why people think something terrible happened to USC.

    If and when the NCAA decides to grow a pair, here are the punishments to be assessed offenders:

    1) No conference or TV revenue sharing

    2) Limited official visits by recruits

    3) Go ahead and go to a bowl, but pay your own way and receive none of the revenue or tv money.

    4) Offending athletes, can:

    A) Forfeit elligibilty and stay at school with school paying for 5 full years of education including tutoring

    B) Transfer to whatever they call D-ll school and play

    Coaches:

    First offense will result in suspension without pay from D-1 for 3 years.

    Second offense will result in suspension without pay from D-1 for 5 years.

    Third offense results in lifetime ban.

    For those of you too young to remember, I sent a similar suggestion to Shawnee Mission, KS in the early 80s. I got back a letter telling me that the NCAA regulated institutions not individuals. Why the hell then were their private investigators coming to my office so frequently? Clowns had no subponea power.
     
  8. bck031

    bck031 1,000+ Posts

    Sabre,

    The limits on coaches you mentioned will not keep them from running to the NFL.
     
  9. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    bck,

    You are correct, but go back 50-60 years and make a list of the worst violators and see how many made a successful transition. I'll give you some cheaters to start your consideration. Few attempted the leap to the NFL because the league wouldn't have most of them.

    Woody Hayes
    Charlie Pell
    Danny Ford
    Howard "I don't give a damn how many buildings his family has endowed on campus, no scotch, no scholarship" Schnellenberger
    Dennis Erickson
    Jackie Sherrill
    Ed Ogeron
    Barry
    Jimmy Johnson
    Tom Osborne
    Bobby Collins
    Ron Meyer
    Kevin Steele
    Frank Beamer
    Chuck Reedy
    Les Miles
    Fat Phil Fulmer

    I've barely touched the West Coast, the ACC, and a host of minor colleges like UNLV, who offered one of our RBs a summer job parking cars at a casino with thousands in tips.

    So far, only Barry, Jimmy, and perhaps Pete Carroll have made the "cheaters transition" successfully.
     
  10. l00p

    l00p 10,000+ Posts

    How can you say USC did not get punished when they have Lane Kiffin as their coach?
     
  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    The NCAA is not responsible for Kiffin's residence off the 110, but rather that dimwit Mike Garrett. The questions are how long before Hayden pulls the plug; who he can gets to take the job; and will UCLA pose a real threat before the new guy arrives.
     
  12. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    You could probably add RC Slocum to that list. I'm guessing that the Barry in that list is reserved for Switzer?
     
  13. bck031

    bck031 1,000+ Posts

    I believe that Switzer won with Johnson's team. All he did was not break it.
     
  14. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    SAID THIS FOR YEARS!!!!

    Ducks FINALLY get caught!!!

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  15. Mr. Fiesta

    Mr. Fiesta 1,000+ Posts


     
  16. Mr. Fiesta

    Mr. Fiesta 1,000+ Posts


     
  17. MarylandHorn

    MarylandHorn 500+ Posts


     
  18. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    That may have been the last time Jerry has been right about anything.
     

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