Why should HIPPA matter more than citizen status? I mean I'm sure the government is just trying to protect the non-citizens from having their privacy exposed and not trying to keep a negative publicity situation from developing? Maybe it is just Fox news trumping up fear about this? The Link Why not spread the truth about disease that is happening to the local community at least? Or is it just too harmful to the PR of the government?
And these kids with measles, scabies and lice are probably wearing FREE Underpants! paid for mine and your tax dollars and your and my children's debt. Somebody please explain to me whether patriots should be pissed off because we are treating these children so poorly or pissed off because we didn't sic German Shepherds on them? I'm such a liberal pinko leftist that damned if my heart doesn't bleed for children without parents trying to find their way in a strange country.
The end game should be to repatriate these children to their families in the country of origin, which as I understand it is where the programs are headed. It's not a simple problem and politicizing it to all hell isn't especially helpful. Also, expecting illegal aliens to become registered Democrats is a fool's errand. The impoverished immigrants are looking for work, not a political say. They have to become citizens, which would be a stretch for most of them, even if they wanted to. Most are indifferent to the political process. Every Hispanic immigrant I know that has become a citizen (only four people) are wealthy well-educated Republican. They just have to hold their noses because contempt for the undocumented often spills over into a rather nasty attitude towards Hispanics whose families were here before Stephen F. Austin. Do you know anybody who would not respond with warmth and kindness to a lost child in their front yard? It's against the grain of humanity to be indifferent to the suffering of children and countries that have the resources, including a lot with fewer resources than we, respond to with kindness. The German Shepherd comment was intended to irritate and instruct. I don't think anybody who posts here would treat children who illegally cross our borders like the Nazis treated Jews.
IF this is true 'The impoverished immigrants are looking for work," why are our welfare systems flooded and being drained/ Why did the Treasury Dept report it sent 4.2 Billion to illegals last year?The Link Sorry Facts show many( not all but more than we can afford0 come here to game the system. Think a pregnant illegal sneaks across the border while in labor so We pay for her delivery and care because she only wants to work? Why is being realistic, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY AND CAN'T HELP EVERYONE- seen as hating? Why is sending them back seen as hating? Was it hating to let children die in Rwanda? is it hating to let children die in Nigeria? Somalis? Yemen? Syria? etc so if Fox is ' trolling"what is this elected US Rep doing? 'A Health and Human Services official refused to allow a member of Congress to enter a facility in his district where some of the unaccompanied immigrant children are being housed." “There is no excuse for denying a Federal Representative from Oklahoma access to a federal facility in Oklahoma where unaccompanied children are being held,” Bridenstine said in the press release. “Any Member of Congress should have the legal authority to visit a federal youth detention facility without waiting three weeks.”The Link
Here's another thing. I have no problem spending millions in foreign aid for humanitarian and health programs. State Department USAID grants? Let's do it. Send the Navy and their state of the art hospital ships down to Guatemala, El Salvador, or Honduras for goodwill missions to help with their measles and scabies? Maybe it's the little neocon in me, but that sounds like a great idea. Of course I'd like to see money for Obamacare better spent on projects like that, but even if it were a new marginal expense, it's peanuts compared to the costs of illegal immigration.
It wouldn't. I'm just responding to the cold hearted conservative attack. Also referring to the cost of potential public health epidemic from illegal immigration vs the cost of helping those folks in their own country through foreign aid. I'd say guard the border as if it were a military force protection mission. No driver's licenses for illegal aliens under the pretense of public safety. Same day deportation for those that smuggled themselves in. Let's get rid of as many enabling incentives as possible to the illegal aliens. Additionally, cut some of these bs ARR stimulus spending that have no value here and re-appropriate it to Latin American foreign aid and health programs.
2000? How do your ideas differ from " coldhearted conservatives"? And who are these cold hearted conservatives? there will always be idiots on both ends of the spectrum but most conservatives would see your ideas as reasonable.
I never said that conservatives were cold-hearted. In fact the point I was making that I don't think there are many Americans of any political stripe who confronted with a lost, sick, hungry child, would not respond with compassion. There are no quick and easy answers to border security for a nation of humane people.. Bitching about buying underwear, etc. is just silly internet blather. Unless, as Deez has suggested, the nation were to embrace policies that remove the carrots that incent illegal immigration, we'll never have the national will to apply the stick that would reverse it.
Croc I am missing the compassion 'we' are showing for the starving sick children in so many other parts of the world. These children are ' lost" because their parents shoved them out the door, paid someone 6-7k to travel 11100-1300 miles across a dangerous country. Why are they more deserving than any of the children dying is so many countries all over the world? The underwear issue represents hundreds of millions of OUR dollars. What if we took those hundreds of millions and sent it to save children dying of ebola in Guinea or children dying of starvation in too many countries to name? let the illegals buy their own underwear. let's help the children. Why don't we help all children, starting with the ones actually dying?
Just to remain contrarian on this thread, I don't think the US should marshal resources to provide health care to impoverished Central Americans. Every nation has its strengths. Our American system is among the best at delivering good health care, but it has abysmal ability to deliver "cost effective" health care, which is what is needed in countries with low per capita income.
If you mean how "We" show compassion in those areas, I think Americans have an amazing record through the Rotary Clubs, Gates Foundation, United Methodist Committee on Relief and thousands of other organizations that deliver intelligent, purposeful aid that helps those in need. (funded largely by successful, kind-hearted capitalists.) As far as our government doing it, it's kinda of complicated, but when money goes government to government there are strings attached on how it's spent (helpful to Monsanto and Merck ... maybe less so for the people we're really trying to help). Corrupt foreign officials skim off an incredible percentage of foreign aid. In fact, there is substantial evidence kleptocratic governments actually work to exacerbate poverty, disease and hunger so there is more humanitarian aid for the kleptocrats to siphon off.
