The vitriol and filth being posted on various social media cheering Nancy Reagan ' s death while these posters call her every insulting name there is should not I guess surprise me. We have really sunk to low levels and I do not know if there is any climbing out.
Glad you didn't give a link to any of that. She was a First Lady of the United States. She was a lady and a gentle, almost grandmotherly type I remember in my youth.
I guess I'm lucky. With my friends mostly southern Denton County Republicans with a few smart, urbane liberals, I didn't have any negative postings about Nancy Reagan. Too bad folks can't use death as a time to remember the positives. The way she loved and stood beside and behind her husband, passionately helping him be the best he could be is an example too easily lost and dismissed. The way she cared for him during his decline is also admirable. Nancy Reagan exuded class and dignity. If some of her policy initiatives were misguided or naïve, the source was old fashioned good intention. May Nancy Reagan rest in glory.
Thankfully, the major-media coverage I have seen (left, right, and center) has been overwhelmingly positive. She was a great woman who deserves our praise and admiration. And by the way -- even if she hadn't been the great woman that she was, the days just after her death would not be a time to dwell on that. I haven't seen anything negative, but if it's out there as the OP suggests, shame on them.
Why don't you ignore garbage like that when you see it? There's certainly no reason to bring it here. I don't know of a single poster that posts here that would engage in that type of behavior, or condone it in any way.
I recently read her autobio My Turn and all the good things said about her appear to be true but there is much about her that is not attractive. I would guess that many of the detractors (and I have not read them) are only looking at her role as enabler to her husband, who was in over his head from day one. He soldiered on and did the best he could and history's arc moved in such a way that he not only prevailed in most ways but triumphed in his greatest goal. That the USSR was going to fold at some point anyway, as my Russian history prof at UT told us in 1970, is beside the point. Reagan gave them a push and then gave Gorbachev a hand. And Nancy Reagan always held the other hand. RIP
I live in a pretty liberal area of the country and haven't seen anyone bash Nancy Reagan. Though the war on drugs was extremely wrong-headed in retrospect, her "Just say no" campaign was the correct strategy. Her intentions were noble and honest. I have the utmost respect for her, much moreso that nearly any Presidential wife since then in terms how serious she took her role as first lady and the clear effort she put into it. Their is ample evidence of a cover-up of POTUS Ronald Reagan's Alzheimers during his second term but I think any wife would support her husband and partner in that situation. The other advisors around them are much more at fault, IMHO.
I am seeing a lot of hate directed at Obama because he is going to the SXSW festival instead of to her funeral. I am sorry but I don't get it. Why would any but a masochist want to attend a funeral for a wife and sit and listen to speaker after speaker talk about what a great couple they were and how she helped make him the great man he was when you know everybody at the funeral hates your guts and thinks you are three notches short of the anti-Christ? Heard the same whining about the Scalia funeral. Scalia despised Obama and so did most of the people at the funeral and I can't imagine that Obama had much use for Scalia. He would have been accused, rightly, of being hypocritical if he had attended. Mrs. Reagan's funeral should be attended by her many friends and the friends of her ex husband and the political hacks should stay in their crypts. Besides, funerals are a waste of time anyway. I have left instructions verbal and written that when I shake off this mortal coil there is to be no obituary, no funeral and no burial. Why waste good real estate?
What is truly frightening is you actually believe this. You actually believe progressives are bad and conservatives are good. Life is just THAT simple to you.. Guess what dude? There are just as many ****** people that call themselves conservatives/Republicans as there are progressive/liberal Democrats. There are just as many good, honest, hard working people that call themselves conservatives/Republicans as there are progressive/liberal Democrats. Your character defines what you are; not your political leanings. We all need to understand this better.
Yes, i think Politics and the Media and Entertainment (moves/TV/music) give cover to the most bigoted people in America. One recent example - gay marriage. Who were the actual bigots and haters in this issue? Over half the country was opposed to it, not because they hate gay people but because they believed in marriage in its traditional form. This wasn't hate but but rather simply being traditional and conservative, and perhaps even 'clinging to religion.' On top of all that was the idea that this was a matter for democracy in its purest form, not the courts. However, it got turned into an overly simplistic right-left division, and the left unloaded for years on the proponents of traditional marriage as homophobic bigots. By perpetuating the idea that believers in traditional marriage were hater-bigot-Fascist-Nazis, it gave the proponents of gay marriage free reign to hate the purported haters. They juxtaposed the narrative. The result was to create a sort of open season for haters. With cover. They let their true selves out. And it was ugly. They are ugly. The actual KKK is a fart in history. Progressives are the effective KKK of our times. Without this wedge issue anymore, it will be interesting to see what they pivot to next as their vehicle of choice to let their hate out. Immigration? Climate Change? Whichever issue it settles on, we can be sure of one thing, whoever disagrees will them will be pounded as hater-bigot-Fascist-Nazis.
Couldn't that logic can be used to justify any behavior? I'm fairly certain that's the sort of logic that was used by the fundamentalist LDA groups in Utah/Arizona to discriminate against non-church members. The crux of the matter was that religious freedom doesn't give a person the right to discriminate against others.
Oh, my goodness -- it almost sounds like you are ready to call for an end to rushing to call people with whom you disagree with hater-bigot-Fascist-Nazis? Look, you and I can agree on this but it wont matter since no one else will. Why? Because it serves a political purpose. And, therefore, will never end. I again come back to the theme of power & control. One group has learned that it can seize and retain power by dividing us into political identities. Pick your theme -- class, race, income, sexuality, gender and so on - even the weather.
I was 100% with you through the first 5 sentences. Then you go off the rails by thinking only D's, or liberals, or progressives or whatever name you've given the opposite side exclusively uses this tactic.
Identity politics is a liberal game. They create new categories of hyphenamericans all the time. Obama did it just the other day with Muslim-Americans. He did do not do this for Muslims in America. He did it because he perceived an advantage to him (and the rest of his group) by doing it.
Dont give Obama any new ideas -- Self-Aware-Americans ps - Feminists separate themselves No one else does it for them
