Impeachment

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    It also doesn't look good either (if the story is true).
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Lots of things don't look good. It's pretty inconsequential.
     
  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Well, they said the same thing about Comey. It turns out he was nuts. Taylor appears to be in cahoots with McCain and Soros.
     
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  4. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Explain that to me please.
     
  5. OrngNugz

    OrngNugz 500+ Posts

    Lock him up, lmfao

     
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  6. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    NASDAQ hits record high today and 2 days removed from the ISIS leader ben killed Pelosi announces there will be a formal impeachment inquiry vote.

    The timing is always impeccable.
     
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  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Haven't they had votes in the House for impeachment inquiry already?
     
  8. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    The President and the Astros ruined their night.
     
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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Steve Bannon thinks Pelosi is well-organized has been planning to take back the House and impeach since Nov 9, 2016. He admires their work ethic on this. He says Pelosi has the process mapped out and has already drawn up two articles of impeachment (1) abuse of power, and (2) obstruction of justice. And perhaps some other theories. He thinks the whole process will be 6 to 8 weeks. There will be a vote in the House to impeach before or around Thanksgiving (requiring only a simple majority of those present). And then a Senate trial before Christmas (requiring a two-thirds supermajority vote of those present). He thinks the Admin has either been too busy to deal with them effectively or perhaps was not taking it very seriously.

    Bannon also thinks the Dems have no 'smoking gun,' that there is no 'smoking gun' and they are going to try to get Trump using the process itself. He thinks the Dems already know they cannot actually remove Trump from office. So what it is really about is the process itself. They will just pile on everything they can pile on, every day.

    So it is a little ironic how the Dems look at Trump versus the way some Republicans look at him, especially the Never-Trumpers. The Dems recognize that Trump is a transformative President. The federal judges are a big part of it but its everything really - fighting the globalists, getting rid of bad trade deals, fighting China, immigration, deconstruction of the administrative state, getting us out of endless wars. The Dems know Trump is going to be in their their lives in a meaningful way not just for the next 5 years, but for the next 10, 20 or 30 years. So what they are really after is to stop the arc of his presidency. They want to affect the 2020 election too, but the main goal is to blunt the direction of Trump presidency. So while the Never-Trumpers may not be smart enough to see the big picture, Pelosi is and she is willing to do anything she can to gut Trump and nullify the results of the 2016 election.
     
  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Everything here is pretty attenuated and out of context. The article makes it look like the groups Taylor worked with were Soros or Burisma front groups without actually establishing that.
     
  11. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
  12. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    The “T” word.

     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Zeldin may be right. We have to see when the evidence is presented rather than leaked - if that ever happens.
     
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  15. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I kind of agree with this. I mean he could literally gun down someone on 5th Avenue or grab someone by the poontang and the Senate would not impeach him. The only thing I disagree with is that it won't go that fast. The GOP wants to get past it. The left wants to take their time so he's leaking fluids come next summer. The impeachment process for Clinton took almost a year. I can't see it being over in two months.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    A trial would be in the Senate, you get that, right?
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is Brennan encouraging a military coup in the US?

     
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    If this is an impeachment proceeding allowed under our Constitution why are the Dems ignoring the procedure as allowed under it?
    Why are they having secret hearings and not allowing Republicans subpoena authority? And full access to the transcripts?
     
  19. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    and due process to defend himself.
     
  20. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Which procedure are the Democrats ignoring that is spelled out in the Constitution?

    As I posted above, the Republicans changed the House rules in 2015 that these hearings are operating within. Yes, those rules were implemented to prevent the Democrats from calling their own witnesses in investigations like Benghazi. Not surprisingly, Democrat cries then mirrored Republican whining now.

    47 Republicans not only have access to the transcripts but can actually sit in the depositions and question the witnesses as members of the 3 committees. That is nearly 20% of the entirety of Republican seats in the House.

    Pelosi reportedly plans to put foward a formal impeachment bill for a vote that I'd expect reinforce the current House rules they are following.

    The Republicans get what they want, a full house vote putting Democrats from Purple districts on record to be used for the 2020 elections. Democrats get to reinforce their legal argument in court for judges to enforce subpoenas.
     
  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    What impeachable offense has been committed?
     
  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Some people need to more closely read the constitution. It very specifically says the House investigates and brings the charges and the Senate is where the trial takes place with the Chief Justice of the SC presiding.
     
  23. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You didn't answer this question.
     
  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Thus far the House has not authorized an impeachment inquiry but have held secret meetings.
    Now You answer
    What impeachable offense has been committed ?
     
  25. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Which procedure in the Constitution is being violated? Here is some basic information on impeachment, the powers dictated by the Constitution, and what are impeachable offenses.

    This answers your specific question. The emphasis is mine.

     
  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    That looks like an opinion piece
    but to send an impeachment charge to the Senate what will be the offense?
     
  27. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    You said the house? You mean a select few democrats in the house right?
     
  28. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    SH,

    That doesn't answer the question. Specifics?
     
  29. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, the Federalist papers are an opinion piece that have been referenced over and over by the SCOTUS and Constitionalists to give life to our Founding Fathers when attempting to interpret the meaning behind the constitution.

    The House will have to draft the articles of impeachment. We can both guess what those might be but I'm not sure a discussion will be fruitful until we see the charges. The indictment occurs after the grand jury process.
     
  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, the House. Not a "few democrats" but the whole House will vote in order to get the charges over to the Senate.
     
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