Impeachment

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Because Schiff can speak over them and instruct the witness not to answer.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Also worked with Susan Rice and DNC operative Alexandra Chalupa, who worked to dig up dirt on Paul Manafort.
     
  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    JF?
    Are you saying the whistleblower might have an agenda?
     
  4. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    yes let’s believe an individual over the actual transcript. Liberal Logic?
     
  5. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I was starting to think it was John Brennen himself. And after the outing I was right. :smokin:
     
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  6. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    A. The individuals all mirror what was said in the "transcript".
    B. The "transcript" is not complete. It is a summary. Why release a "transcript" when it is not complete? Redact what you need to but it smells funny. It's smelled funny since the beginning.

    The Trump Administration has no self perception. They thought this call summary would clear them. It serves as Exhibit 1. Knowing that a transcript should be made available to investigators will only, eventually, show who's telling the truth here.

    If I were on the gang of 8 I'd think it reasonable to get full transcripts of many of trump's calls. Calls to Russia around this time period, calls to Erdregon, etc. Not that I would need to know any of it but I'd like to think that a small, principled, bipartisan group could verify that we didn't sell out the Kurds for a new Trump Tower. I know Trump had to get something out of the Turkey thing. I thought it was Bagdhadi. Turns out we've been on him for a while now and our pulling out of Syria so quickly almost screwed them up. We pulled out so fast that we had to bomb our own supplies we left behind and NOW we're going in to protect the oil. Like, we forgot it was there? Weird.
     
  7. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    a) If the individuals all mirror what was said in the transcript then what’s the problem?
    b) I’ve heard this claim that there’s more, but I haven’t seen anybody show proof of this. Is this some ones word vs the rest?

    Trump released the transcript immediately and the Dems didn’t know what to do because they weren’t expecting that he would. You libs are always playing gotcha and are always so sure of yourself only to look foolish later. It’s like you never learn.
     
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  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    House just voted to proceed with impeachment hearings
    want to see how the vote went
     
  9. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    A. Trump and Co. report that the "transcript" is complete. "word for word, comma for comma".
    2. At least one person who was in on the call has said that he recommended edits to the "transcript" that were not made.
    III. The "transcript" is fairly clear that it is a quid pro quo. You investigate this corruption that I want you to investigate (even though it has been debunked) and you'll get your White House visit and your money. It is crystal clear when combined with the receipts that Mr. Taylor brought in the form of text messages.
    d. The professionals/bureaucrats in the narrative are concerned that the appropriated funds for Ukrainian security are going to not get to the Ukrainians because if the fiscal year expired then the funding would have gone away. That's why there was a flurry in August/September.
    v. He also released the picture of Pelosi standing up to him thinking that it would make him look good and her bad. Turns out she may get it tattooed on her lower back. Zero self perception and only "yes" men around him. This is what you get when all you're left with are Stephen Miller and someone who says things like "the 4 star General was just not prepared to handle President Trump's genius."
     
  10. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Ok.
     
  11. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    So you are saying the transcript proves Quid Pro Quo? :yikes: The Ukrainians didn’t even know funds were being held back. So how can Trump leverage funds when Ukraine didn’t even know until reports came out from the media way after the phone call meeting? Back to the analogy of the parents grounding their kid. Is the kid really grounded if the parents never told their child he or she is grounded. Also why does everyone collaborate the transcript and the Ukraine leaders said they didn’t know or feel any kind of pressure to investigate the Bidens? You people are unreal. Even Tom Brokaw who is a huge liberal hack said “The Democrats don’t have the goods on Trumps”. This is a nothing burger. Actually let me correct myself. This is a something burger. More specifically it’s actually a “coup burger”
     
  12. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    But......but......but Taylor!:lmao:
     
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  13. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    if the Dems touch, it’s contaminated. :yes:
     
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  14. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    “It’s not that liberals aren’t smart, it’s just that so much of what they know isn’t so”
    Ronald Reagan.
     
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  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    OU Bubba sure likes his tin foil hats.
     
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  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    PELOSI: “This is a sad day. It’s a sad day because nobody comes to Congress to impeach a president of the United States. No one.”
    Say What?
    " Speaking at a MoveOn event in Washington, DC, just hours after being sworn in, Tlaib — the first Palestinian-American woman in Congress — said, “ we’re gonna go in there and we’re gonna impeach the ************!’”
     
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  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So Morris testified today.
    NEWS: CBS News has learned NSC's Senior Director for European Affairs Tim Morrison was on the Trump-Zelensky call and told the investigating committees, "I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed.
    Morrison also testified that the memorandum of the call released by the White House is accurate to his recollection and he does not know the WB's identity. "

    Must have pained CBS to report that.
     
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  18. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Comical to hear Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff touting the Constitution earlier today. Saying Trump is going against the Constitution by saying he has said he can do whatever he wants. I don't remember his saying that.

    Did they call out Hillary, RBG, and the others who have called for the Electoral College to be abolished? That is a direct hit on what the Founders wanted.
     
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  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Whistle Blower
     
  20. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Sorry, I deleted my question once I figured it out.
     
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  21. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Morrisson also supposedly said that Ukraine knew nothing about the delay in military aid. He also mentioned that *drumroll* Taylor made several false statements.
     
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  22. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    leaker

    *Edit*. A dishonest leaker.
     
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  23. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    She's not sad. It's a very cynical statement on her part. She truly believes we are that stupid.
     
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  24. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    A whistle blower is considered sacred, honest, a speaker of truth to power, unimpeachable.

    A leaker is considered agenda driven, dishonest, part of the swamp.
     
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  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So the vote against the farce impeachment inquiry was bipartisan.
     
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Steve Bannon doesnt like her politics but he does admire her toughness and skill as a parliamentarian. He says that, with this move, she is running "a master class in political warfare."
     
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  27. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Expect the line, “ more subpoenas than bills” during the election season.

    As for this process, I expect Dems in districts Trump won in 2016 to vote no on actual impeachment.
     
  28. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Do Trump haters really think Americans will think this is fair?
    "
    Under the House Judiciary procedures, Trump and his counsel will be invited to attend all panel proceedings and ask questions. They can also request additional evidence or witness testimony, but the “committee shall determine whether the suggested evidence is necessary or desirable.”
     
  29. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    FIFY.
     
  30. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Strangely, your credibility was greater when you were supporting the Russian collusion falsehoods with a heavy emphasis on “pee” .
     
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